#indieweb 2021-03-30

2021-03-30 UTC
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[jgmac1106] Call back to SEO... Just annoys me as term basically is vapid..People all the time throw worry about "unoptimized themes"
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[jgmac1106] I then demonstrate how I own top spot of dozens of searches with zero burn
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[tantek] lol "unoptimized themes", you mean the ones still dependent on JS?
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[jgmac1106] Anything miss OGP kruff is usually it
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[jgmac1106] Some will yell at you for not having schema.org I should start publishing the replies I send back
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[jgmac1106] Worst is when client gets the call, usually a non-profit, "x says we are not optimized for SEO
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[jgmac1106] Fix now,".... Me, " but you already rank number one by telling stories"
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[jgmac1106] Oops OGP kruff is stuff you put in an HTML to help social media display pics and keywords
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[chrisaldrich] Not sure if this article made it into chat this month, but Anne Applebaum has a long overview of democracy and the internet with some various perspectives which are IndieWeb relevant/adjacent. Having seen some of the New_Public Festival, I notice a lot of their examples are drawn from that space earlier this year: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/04/the-internet-doesnt-have-to-be-awful/618079/.
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[jgmac1106] I think I am in LinkedIn Jail but can't prove it
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[chrisaldrich] What constitutes LinkedIn Jail [jgmac1106]?
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[jgmac1106] a throttling of your reach, it has to be almost statiscally impossible for me to go from 200-300 notifications to 48 hours of zero
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[jgmac1106] I did spend a day or two after the Georgia election law explaining to folks they racist AF...could be that
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[chrisaldrich] What is shadow banning?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "shadow banning" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "shadow banning is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[chrisaldrich] What is shadow ban?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "shadow ban" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "shadow ban is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[jgmac1106] or saw some dev bragging about l33t speak and dropped in eveyr Jay-Z nick name to show the role of language in signifying membership...maybe folks though Hova jiggawat is bad
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[scojjac] what is deplatforming
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Loqi deplatforming or no platform is a form of banning in which a person or organization is denied the use of a platform (physical or increasingly virtual) on which to speak https://indieweb.org/deplatforming
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[scojjac] that one has a link to the wikipedia on shadow banning
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[jgmac1106] not deplatformed and I would use a different defintion
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[jgmac1106] deplatforming to me is, "the exercising of free speech by removing anyone you want off stuff you own bc that is how free speech works"
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[jgmac1106] and I have no proof, if it did happen I wish you got notified like with twitter jail
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[jgmac1106] not my fault Microsoft built the most game-able algorithm in the game, I also been throwing mad shade at Share Point, bc I hate it
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[scojjac] Meh, to me that's just a more opinionated version of the same definition. But I didn't write it anyway; I was just looking for an indieweb article with any tenuous link to shadow bans.
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[scojjac] But yeah, it's better to receive notice.
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[jgmac1106] agree, why I avoid opinionated decisions, mine just happens to be based in law since we gave corporations the same rights as people
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[jgmac1106] that is the OG sin
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[scojjac] Law, the lowest common denominator of mankind
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[jgmac1106] didn't know we had that article not bad for what is fire button issue
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[jgmac1106] microsofts lawyers have lawyers but I do pay a lot of money a month to LinkedIn so yeah as a paying customer buying into your sales channels I should get notification if I violated ToS. Sales Navigator ain't cheap
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[jgmac1106] [chrisaldrich] maybe we should collect things on "shadow ban" have the time it is POSSE that triggers it (publish on own site, syndicate elsewhere)
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[jgmac1106] I like when I got banned from twitter for live tweeting the All-Star game for "unsolicited @ mentions"
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[jgmac1106] the LinkedIn jail plot thickens if [chrisaldrich] interacts with me content it will show up in [scojjac] feed but I get ZERO notification of anyone interacting with my content
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[chrisaldrich] For the feed reader fans https://1feed.app/, a relatively new app which has been mentioned here before, is up on the front page of https://www.producthunt.com today.
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jacky hm
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jacky it's definitely very spartan
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jacky I do like how it homogenizes content in a way and hints at the source with that icon
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[jgmac1106] Wrote the most broetry response I could here: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/hubspot_youre-the-very-first-marketing-hire-at-a-activity-6782697412914880512-350o if I don't get a notification or interaction will know I am LinkedIn Jail
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jjuran jiggawat is an alternative spelling/pronounciation of gigawat, which is like "wat" but times a billion
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jacky lmfao
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plainoldcheese[m Jigabyte
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[jgmac1106] For those not into early aught Hip-hop jigga is short for jigawatt, what Shawn Carter thought he heard Doc say at the movie. His mom made of fun of him and called Shawn jigawatt, got shortned to jiggawat, Been passing time with Hip Hop Easter Eggs
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[jgmac1106] shortened to jigga*
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[chrisaldrich] maybe better for #indieweb-chat? On the LinkedIn front, at least this didn't happen to you Greg: https://twitter.com/nandoodles/status/1376874731408928770
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@nandoodles In today’s edition of “LinkedIn is unusable”: This recruiter spent $50,000 on @LinkedIn and they still kicked her off without warning. Nice. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExukRMxXEAceF58.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1376874731408928770)
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[jgmac1106] anyone who uses Sales Navigator should know to manual until it hurt bacckup...it poof all goes away when you stop paying
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[jgmac1106] anyone who builds a business on someone else's silo risk losing it all, silos gonna silo
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[tantek] dang that's rough
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[scojjac] Wow I feel defeated just reading that
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[tantek] yeahhhhh this is one of the reasons I invest very little *time* into LinkedIn
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[tantek] might get around to it after I update my h-resume (which is basically on my plate just to try to exercise h-resume a bunch and see what issues fall out)
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[aciccarello] I've been wanting to pull my resume from LinkedIn to my website but I'm not sure I trust their developer API to be stable.
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Loqi [tantek], [aciccarello]: would you mind moving this conversation to #indieweb-dev? thanks!
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[tantek] dang that's a pretty low threshold. one term?
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aaronpk your h-resume too [tantek] ;-)
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[tantek] no that's what I mean, all I said was one term, h-resume
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[tantek] yet I got lumped in
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[tantek] feels kinda wrong to ding people for use of *one* term
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aaronpk -> #indieweb-meta
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[tantek] +1
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neshpion why do i read h-resume and assume it's something nsfw
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KartikPrabhu depends on whose resume you read ;)
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