#indieweb 2021-04-08
2021-04-08 UTC
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mxd I ordered them via my hosting provider and transfered all domains to cloudflare.
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# [tw2113_Slack_] i still use dreamhost personally
# mxd Maybe you can also register domains on cloudflare now. (It was in Beta a year ago)
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[jeremycherfas] Hover is good.
# [jeremycherfas] I prefer wish list because it is more flexible; for today, for this month, for the rest of my life, etc.
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[KevinMarks] This is great and on topic https://www.wired.com/story/healing-power-javascript-code-programming/amp
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# jeremycherfas I read Craig's newsletter about it, but not yet the thing itself.
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jacky might be interesting re: conversations on privacy https://www.manifestno.com/home
# jacky _never mind_, lol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combahee_River_Collective
# jacky the person who published it http://niloufar.org/
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KartikPrabhu sounds very weird!
# KartikPrabhu tracking, right there in the HTML
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petermolnar I... I honestly don't know. I understand the wish to analyze user interaction, but from another perspective it still feels like exploitation.
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[aciccarello] I'd rather have that than rewriting every url to a google analytics redirect URL
# [aciccarello] *shakes fist at gmail
# [aciccarello] Also, I love that stefanjuds has a a screen saver 😆
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# minoru_shiraeesh why do sites show a dialog window that says something about cookies?
# minoru_shiraeesh there was a legislation
# minoru_shiraeesh but why? what does that mean?
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Loqi A cookie banner is an overlay on a website that usually covers content to inform users about the cookies which are used on a site https://indieweb.org/cookie_consent
# alex11 it's well meaning... but yeeeeeah
# minoru_shiraeesh so, what am I supposed to consent to?
# alex11 basically whether to be tracked or not
# alex11 but it gets real irritating when it pops up on every website and a lot of them make it excessively hard to opt out
# minoru_shiraeesh does brave browser solve the problem?
# minoru_shiraeesh it shows an icon that says how many tracking things were blocked
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[schmarty] minoru_shiraeesh: these issues overlap and are related but not necessarily the same.
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# minoru_shiraeesh you can't meaningfully say yes either, because you don't understand what that means
# minoru_shiraeesh I think we can apply the following principle to legislators: if you can't afford to clearly explain the law, then you can't afford the law itself
# minoru_shiraeesh consent is legitimate when clearly explained, otherwise it is not legitimate
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# [KevinMarks] GDPR was written to require meaningful consent, which is how we got the puzzle box consent forms now