#indieweb 2021-04-19

2021-04-19 UTC
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jacky
a stark quote
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[scojjac]
Give me a break! Iā€™m doing what has to be done. To stave off something worse.
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[scojjac]
[jacky] ^ you asked for it
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jacky
HA wait
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jacky
is that like from Tony Stark? lol
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jacky
sounds like something from Captain America: Civil War right when they were about to fight in the airport
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jacky
this is peak #indieweb-chat, lol
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raghavgururajan
Howdy!
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raghavgururajan
Came across this article: https://olabini.se/blog/2013/09/switching-my-life/
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jeremycherfas
Welcome. How did that bring your here?
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GWG
Oops
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raghavgururajan
jeremycherfas: Oops! My comment hasn't appeared yet (awaiting moderation). I recommended IndieWeb to the OP, to decouple themselves from Corporate Web.
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jeremycherfas
Ah. That explains it.
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[girrodocus]
Hi all. I'm new to all of this (indieweb, web development, servers, etc etc), except for a few months of Python experience which might not be particularly relevant.
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[girrodocus]
Where I'd ultimately like to get to would be:
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[girrodocus]
1. domain name points to my personal site
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[girrodocus]
I have a domain name and I have a few ideas for where I'd like to get to as my knowledge develops. But right now I'm stuck knowing what to do next. I don't have any hosting, however a friend has suggested I try signing up for a VPS. I've had a quick look on the Yunohost, Cloudron, and Contabo sites but I don't really know what I'm looking at. Could anyone suggest a way forward for me?
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[girrodocus]
I'm particularly keen to avoid any security trouble as I don't have any sysadmin experience. I'm very open to learning, but it will have to be beginner-friendly.
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Loqi
hey [girrodocus]: we try to keep dev talk out of this channel, can you move to #indieweb-dev?
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[girrodocus]
2. personal site is some kind of blog/wiki hybrid in the mode of a 'digital garden' (birdirectional links, etc)
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[girrodocus]
3. site is fairly easy to update (including from iphone)
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[girrodocus]
4. in time, greater integration with indieweb using various plugins, libraries etc.
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[girrodocus]
Inspriration:
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[girrodocus]
www.jvt.me
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[girrodocus]
I'm sorry - yes I will post there. Thank you for telling me.
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@alexvoica
To give people more control and choice over their data, today we're announcing that Facebook posts and notes can be directly transferred to @GoogleDocs, @Blogger and @WordPress via our Transfer Your Information tool: https://about.fb.com/news/2021/04/transfer-your-facebook-posts-and-notes-with-our-expanded-data-portability-tool/ https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzVaGaYUcAEl0kC.jpg
(twitter.com/_/status/1384115217978646535)
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aaronpk
only wordpress.com :(
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[schmarty]
"Data Portability*******"
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[KevinMarks]
I think blogger has reasonable export
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[tantek]
as presumably does Wordpress.com right?
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[tantek]
looks like a step toward multi-step progress
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[chrisaldrich]
WordPress.com has had some pretty good export, and other content management services use that to their benefit to do import into their platforms.
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[chrisaldrich]
Some here may find this conference at the end of the week interesting: https://ide.mit.edu/events/the-social-media-summit-mit-smsmit/
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[chrisaldrich]
I just got my first nudge on Twitter to sign up for their newletter service Revue at https://www.getrevue.co/?utm_source=twitter-threads&utm_campaign=announcement-callout&utm_content=learn-more. For some fun context, it popped up when I pressed the "+" button to create a Twitter thread. https://boffosocko.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/twitter-wordsmiths.png
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[chrisaldrich]
So apparently if you're going to bother to write more than 280 characters you definitely need a newsletter...
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[tantek]
I thought that was called a tweetstorm
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[chrisaldrich]
Is just two threaded tweets a storm? I thought two was a Twitter depression, three a strong breeze, four a gale, and five or more a tweetstorm? šŸŒ¬ ā˜ šŸŒ§ :lightning_cloud: šŸŒ€
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KartikPrabhu
by that count, some people do a twittericane!
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sknebel
is there a word for a long thread that gets exended over a long time? "storm" doesnt quite fit it if it takes weeks to build up
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KartikPrabhu
glacier or iceage?
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[chrisaldrich]
I love that their pop up ad says "Hello wordsmiths."
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[tantek]
Wordsmith sounds like a new blogging platform tbh
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[tantek]
for folks who consider themselves more crafts people than mass publishers (WordPress)
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[tantek]
submits "Twitnado" as another Twitter weather related posting term
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[chrisaldrich]
What is Posterous?
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Loqi
Posterous.com was a blogging silo that shut down 2013-04-30 https://indieweb.org/Posterous
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[chrisaldrich]
thinks that Twitnado is pre-Posterous.
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[schmarty]
I thought "a depression" was the collective noun for Twitter users.
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[jgmac1106]
I am once again in LinkedIn Jail which I can best describe as having reach throttled and all your notifications turned off. I think it was for once again calling people racist. No anti-racism efforts allowed on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/activity-6789733811648253952-Cmtn
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[tantek]
[schmarty] and here I thought the Twitter collective noun was "mob"
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[tantek]
[chrisaldrich] don't think I didn't see your preposterous puntempt
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[chrisaldrich]
I'm surprised that Twitter doesn't bring Posterous back as a middle ground before they start pressing the pedal on Revue. Why not own the whole distribution stream?
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[schmarty]
tantek: a mob of Twitter posters. a depression of Twitter readers.
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[tantek]
oof that hits accurately
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[chrisaldrich]
Not related: Maybe we need a posting service that does single letters or maybe just a word at a time? There's definitely prior art in other media: https://muppet.fandom.com/wiki/A
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[chrisaldrich]
What are collective nouns for social media platforms?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "collective nouns for social media platforms" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "collective nouns for social media platforms is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[jgmac1106]
there are enough Twitter readers left top be called a mob?
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[tantek]
soapbox
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[tantek]
[jgmac1106] unfortunately yes, plenty enough left to stalk & harass folks, especially women & non-het & non-white folks.
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[jgmac1106]
this was my bullying post on LinkedIn that got me booted: https://twitter.com/jgmac1106/status/1384221439767633922
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@jgmac1106
What @LinkedIn calls bullying behavior. No doing anti-racist work on LinkedIn. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzW93U7VoAE4RtH.png
(twitter.com/_/status/1384221439767633922)
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[jgmac1106]
i false hate false equivalency so much...racism isn't the other side...it is racism..okay rant over
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[tantek]
wow that's worth documenting on /LinkedIn#Criticism
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[tantek]
or even a blog post [jgmac1106], noting what LinkedIn is blocking anti-racist work
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[tantek]
noting that*
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[jgmac1106]
it's the second the first time was me mentioning hova jigawatt which is even crazier. Basically you can't write Jay-Z on LinkedIn
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[jgmac1106]
I will write up a post on Thursday
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[tantek]
[jgmac1106]++ thanks for publicly documenting your experience on this
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Loqi
[jgmac1106] has 11 karma in this channel over the last year (28 in all channels)
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[jgmac1106]
ooh I have been so inactive since COVID hit
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[jgmac1106]
down to 28 karma pts, time to get contributing again
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