#indieweb 2021-04-28

2021-04-28 UTC
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[tantek]
what is a garden
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "garden" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "garden is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek]
garden is a place for deliberate growing of plants, decorative or for eating, that are sometimes the primary subject of IndieWeb posts, and is an area of exploration for more structured posts around planting, plant growth, flowering, bearing fruit etc. See example: https://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/?tagged=garden
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[tantek]
^ barnabywalters feel free to add more 🙂
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[tantek]
also rhiaro
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barnabywalters
will do once I’m done gardening the microformats wiki
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jeremycherfas
Are there any garden-specific microformats?
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[tantek]
not that I know of. nor any specifically for food AFAIK
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[tantek]
closest thing we have is perhaps products for plants or seeds or garden supplies or support structures you may purchase
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barnabywalters
didn’t aaronpk have something for marking up his food log?
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aaronpk
i think i took that out, at least i hope i did. cause there wasn't a good consuming use case
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[tantek]
perhaps events for planting seeds, moving plants between pots
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barnabywalters
that’d make for some weird reactions
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[tantek]
not sure event markup would make sense for an "observed event" (instead of a planned event) such as a flowering or bearing of fruit. those feel more like status updates about the plant(s)
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Loqi
hey jeremycherfas, [tantek], I don't mean to be a bother, but can you take this conversation to #indieweb-dev?
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barnabywalters
“tantek rsvped yes to barnaby repotting a shrub”
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[tantek]
haha yes barnabywalters. though I can see people holding planting parties! bring your seeds and we'll teach you how to plant them in small containers to get them going, provide suitable soil etc.
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barnabywalters
yeah, that’d definitely justify an h-event
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jeremycherfas
I would say that my IG posts (mostly PESOS to my site) are 1/3 food, 1/3 garden and plants and 1/3 other. But none is tagged much as such.
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jeremycherfas
I record significant dates (bud-break, fruiting etc to Day One, tagged garden, Makes it very easy to compare year on year.
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[tantek]
those definitely sound like use-cases
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[tantek]
and aggregating into growth overviews or year on year comparisons is a good consuming code/service use-case
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jeremycherfas
Having played around with indie forms of journaling, I went back to Day One for ease of use, encouraged by export abilities. I should see whether I could PESOS to my site.
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[tantek]
PESOS of Day One would be very cool. I know of others that like the Day One experience
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jeremycherfas
Seeing how good it is with Shortcuts, I'll bet [Rose] could hammer something together in minutes.
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jeremycherfas
Back in the day I had a public journal too from Day One. Since going back, I haven't looked at that.
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[KevinMarks]
Harvesting events make sense
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jeremycherfas
Rats; publish is not longer available in Day One 2.0. But there are other options, for sure.
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barnabywalters
ha ha wow, here’s an old series of posts tracking plant growth from 2013, featuring brian suda https://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/?tagged=randomchilies
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barnabywalters
that’s really a throwback. those were posted to my site via email, when that was the easiest way to post photos to my site from iOS devices
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jeremycherfas
What was random about them?
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jeremycherfas
Just seeds you found?
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barnabywalters
nope, it’s a variety of chili where approximately one in ten is spicy
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[tantek]
e.g. "A _Personal Digital Habitat_ is a federated multi-device information environment within which a person routinely dwells. It is associated with a personal identity and encompasses all the digital artifacts (information, data, applications, etc.) that the person owns or routinely accesses."
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[tantek]
^ worth IndieNews IMO
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[KevinMarks]
My zoom keeps losing audio, so I'm restarting
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[KevinMarks]
skittish was the one I was thinking of https://skittish.com/
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[KevinMarks]
glitch has some new tools, including static sites with eleventy https://www.producthunt.com/posts/glitch-starters
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barnabywalters
aaronpk++ for webmention.rocks
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Loqi
aaronpk has 24 karma in this channel over the last year (176 in all channels)
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barnabywalters
I think that was the most pleasant experience I’ve ever had making my software comply with a standard
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Loqi
[indieweb] blank-gh-site: Setup a simple new indieweb site on a domain name in mere minutes with this project.
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Loqi
[indienews] New post: "A Twitter of Our Own at OERxDomains 2021 Conference" https://boffosocko.com/2021/04/26/a-twitter-of-our-own-at-oerxdomains-2021-conference/
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[tantek]
^ note good use of "simple" as in meaning quite basic in look/functionality, not simple as in work
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[chrisaldrich]
There's obviously prior artwork with respect to /blogroll for /discovery and the idea of Twitter lists, but does anyone aggregate/publish hashtags they follow? Here's an example I just ran across: https://madland.ca/#features
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@rococopacetic
@quinncy Bill Scott, a Philadelphia artist, came to speak to my class in college. He said something along the lines of "if you paint to please yourself, many others will also be pleased, but if you paint to please many, no one will." Works for lots of things.
(twitter.com/_/status/1387526141938966528)
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[tantek]
what is cook what you want
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "cook what you want" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "cook what you want is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[KevinMarks]
What is eat what you cook?
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Loqi
eat what you cook is a metaphor for making use of what you create on and for the IndieWeb, especially any code you write, and one of several IndieWeb community principles https://indieweb.org/eat_what_you_cook
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[tantek]
that's the flip side