#indieweb 2021-04-29

2021-04-29 UTC
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[tantek] what is make what you need
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "make what you need" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "make what you need is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] scratch your own itch << https://twitter.com/rococopacetic/status/1387526141938966528
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Loqi ok, I added "https://twitter.com/rococopacetic/status/1387526141938966528" to the "See Also" section of /scratch_your_own_itch https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=75438&oldid=75437
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[tantek] since the "cook what you want" discussion came up here, I've captured it as something to use instead of the existing "scratch your own itch", please provide your feedback accordingly! https://indieweb.org/scratch_your_own_itch#cook_what_you_want
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jacky o.o
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tarball777 Hi there, I have a technical question regarding what webmentions can do. I am in the right place?
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tarball777 Ok I just read the wiki in detail and will ask in #indieweb-dev. Sorry!
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doosboox tarball777: no worries :)
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voxpelli Has anyone uploaded their Google+ Takeout to their own site? Finding lots of golden posts of mine there
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[kimberlyhirsh] [jacky] when I'm clicking through to examples on the wiki from jacky.wtf they mostly redirect to the homepage. Is it cool with you if I move these to previous examples?
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[kimberlyhirsh] (just realized that maybe belonged in #indieweb-meta whoops)
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beko voxpelli: not really. The Takeout is sitting here for ages. Someday™ :D
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voxpelli beko: makes two of us then :) the pain is when one find that one wants to link to something, but doing it will take too long for this very moment
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beko I was going to check mine after the FB Takeout but that was so horrible bad to process that I skipped the whole idea for later.
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petermolnar (a bit -chat, but not completely) thoughts: re-decentralize ideas seem to be trying to resonate along the lines of inclusivity - just like indieweb. However... in my opinion, what made the internet decentralized 20ish years ago was this strange combination of open-but-exclusive: places: a specific forum for fan fiction, that certain webring for an arcane hobby, etc. Is is possible that the drive for
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petermolnar a decentralized internet is actually a form of exclusivity, if that those "exclusive" places are open for anyone?
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[KevinMarks] well, they weren't actually exclusive on the whole, they were distinct. There was enough friction and discoverability pain to make them require a bit more effort than, say searching twitter for the hot keyword and going dunking
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[KevinMarks] but even that goes back further than you think https://www.wired.com/1994/05/alt-tasteless/
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petermolnar that article feels unreal in 2021
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petermolnar "It actually does cable one better: It's already interactive. You can post notes to Usenet groups, ask questions, comment on someone else's remarks, conjecture idly and often."
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jacky !tell [kimberlyhirsh] sure but do you mind linking to the things that are broken? I'll make an effort to update those links :)
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[kimberlyhirsh] https://jacky.wtf/pay/
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jacky ah bet, definitely could add that back
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jacky I'll ping you when I do
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jacky thank you!
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[kimberlyhirsh] https://jacky.wtf/follow/
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jacky oh dang
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jacky lol it's going to be every page D:
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[kimberlyhirsh] No problem!
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[kimberlyhirsh] Yeah I think so
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[aciccarello] [kimberlyhirsh] I think your blog links are broken on your wiki page
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[aciccarello] I think they are missing the date in the path
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[kimberlyhirsh] [aciccarello] Thanks
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[kimberlyhirsh] They broke when I moved from WordPress to micro.blog I bet.
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[aciccarello] Welcome! I read a couple. You've got a great writing style
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[kimberlyhirsh] Should be fixed now.
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[kimberlyhirsh] Thanks for the compliment on my writing style!
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jacky just came across https://indieweb.org/planet
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jacky didn't realize I added myself there
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[tantek] what is export
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[tantek] what is takeout
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Loqi export (specifically, How to export your data) in the context of the indieweb refers to the ability to download some or all of your data from a site, typically from a silo, though also for CMS or site migration https://indieweb.org/export
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Loqi Google is primarily used for searching the open web (where indieweb sites typically rank highly), but also produces end user software, and hosts a number of content silos and other services https://indieweb.org/takeout
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[tantek] fixed the generic term to go to /export and have that link to Google Takeout
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[tantek] beko, voxpelli, you may be interested in (and feel free to add your thoughts above about it to the Brainstorming section)
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[tantek] what is backfill
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Loqi backfill is the action of importing all your past posts, typically from a social media silo, into your own site https://indieweb.org/backfill
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[tantek] ^
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[tantek] documenting those challenges / desires to doing backfill may help folks who have similar thoughts
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voxpelli [tantek]: thanks! feels good to get such a ping from you again, feels good to be sort of back
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GWG voxpelli: We like seeing you as well, you even came up at HWC this week
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GWG voxpelli: About one of your site features
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voxpelli GWG: Hah, that’s nice!
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[tantek] good to have you back (even sort of 🙂 ) also!
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[tantek] voxpelli++ welcome 🙂
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Loqi voxpelli has 1 karma in this channel over the last year (5 in all channels)
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[tantek] (we now have 365d trailing karma so don't take it personally)
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voxpelli Challenge accepted 😂
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[tantek] 😄
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GWG voxpelli: I'm offering anyone who accumulates 100 karma points a guest spot on my intermittent Indieweb podc
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GWG podcast
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voxpelli A good reward!
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jacky oh tbh lol that's not a bad metric for podcast guests
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doosboox The gamer in me instantly awakens. I can win pretend points and gain niche fame? It’s hard to resist the temptation!
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[tantek] in case you're interested in silo drama (and/or still have something at Yahoo or AOL you want to export & backfill) https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/04/verizon-tries-to-sell-yahoo-and-aol-after-spending-9-billion-on-fallen-giants/
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jacky lmfaoo omg
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jacky it's like hot potato
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barnabywalters imagine what the web could be like if they had poured $9B into yahoo pipes
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[snarfed] barnabywalters++
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Loqi barnabywalters has 1 karma in this channel over the last year (3 in all channels)
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