#indieweb 2021-05-05

2021-05-05 UTC
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GWG
aaronpk: It's on my list.
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GWG
aaronpk: I was looking at something you wrote. When you switched over to using q=source instead of q=last in Quill, you are checking for a published date parameter. I never implemented that
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[KevinMarks]
Losing woodwind was a shame
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[tantek]
What is Nuzzel
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Loqi
Nuzzel is a discovery-based service that surfaces articles and news based upon how many of your contacts on silos like Twitter, Facebook, and LinkedIn link to or interact with sources on those services https://indieweb.org/Nuzzel
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[tantek]
aaronpk, snarfed, I still feel the user expectation of readers due to social media is following *people* not feeds and that's enough conceptual friction for folks to get stuck and not adopt
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[tantek]
I mean following UX in general is still not well worked out
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aaronpk
I will admit the "follow" UX wasn't ever claimed to be solved by this
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aaronpk
it's also unfortunately one of the harder problems, but it's definitely worth revisiting this from that perspective
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[tantek]
aaronpk, my comment was in response to snarfed's "quieter because it’s stable, not because it’s unused"
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[tantek]
as in, no, it's quieter because UX friction
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aaronpk
I agree
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[chrisaldrich]
wonders who won the grand prize with bridgy's 2 millionth notification? :iwc:
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[tantek]
This is an interesting silo alternative (the replies are quite good) https://twitter.com/evacide/status/1389698676377808897
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@evacide
I would like to announce that I'm moving off of Facebook to Faebook, a social media site run by beautiful and unworldly creatures whose ways are beyond our ken and who will probably turn you into a small animal for no reason.
(twitter.com/_/status/1389698676377808897)
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[tantek]
what is Faebook?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "Faebook" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Faebook is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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barnabywalters
unfortunately, it looks like they got acquired by facebook :( faebook.com
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[tantek]
my guess is that was a pre-emptive domain typo purchase by facebook
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[tantek]
I'd expect the actual faebook to be on a much more ethereal tld
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barnabywalters
ha ha I know that. I only ever log in to facebook using faceboo.com because I find it mildly amusing
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[tantek]
I wonder how much traffic that domain gets on Halloween
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petermolnar
I'd genuinely love a faebook
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petermolnar
all fae from every d&d, dark horse, cinematic universe etc worlds
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jjuran
I'd prefer a faciebook
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jjuran
But anything's better than faceboot
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petermolnar
faceboot sounds a bit too punk concert
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astralbijection[
Several years ago, whenever I had an idea for making something, I drew it out on a piece of paper. There were hundreds of these pages and now I want to scan them, organize them, and put it on my website. Anyone know of good software for sifting through and separating/grouping possibly hundreds of pages in PDFs?
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astralbijection[
Additionally, do you think it would be better to display them on my website as PDFs or images?
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jacky
probably images tbh
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jacky
easier to handle zooming, no worries about it being randomly downloaded because a browser doesn't know if it should render it or punt it, etc etc
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barnabywalters
if they contain only scanned images, no OCRed text, then I’d say go with images unless their paginated structure is particularly important
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barnabywalters
PDFs are useful when page layout and printability is important
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barnabywalters
otherwise, they suck
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astralbijection[
Theyre mostly single or double sided sheets of paper with lots of drawings on them
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barnabywalters
definitely sounds like images would be better then
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barnabywalters
it’ll also be easier to do post-processing and cleanup if you want to
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astralbijection[
Yeah, I guess that's what I'll do
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barnabywalters
sounds like a fun project!
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astralbijection[
The only thing is my printer spits out PDFs, but I wouldn't be surprised if pandoc or something turns PDFs into images
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barnabywalters
hmm yeah there should be a tool for extracting the images
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astralbijection[
Yep, it's gonna be very fun
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astralbijection[
A trip down memory lane too
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barnabywalters
astralbijection[: if you’re using mac os, there’s an automator workflow action called “Render PDFs to images” which might be useful for you
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Loqi
hey jacky, barnabywalters, that's a lot of dev jargon! can you move to #indieweb-dev?
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jacky
you got it
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barnabywalters
well it’s not really about development
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jacky
it's not but the mention of tools tripped it up
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astralbijection[
<barnabywalters "astralbijection: if you’re using"> I'm on arch, so unfortunately can't use that. But there's probably a cli tool out there
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barnabywalters
yeah, there’ll definitely be something
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barnabywalters
maybe imagemagick or ghostscript
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barnabywalters
astralbijection[: (at the risk of angering Loqi) what printer/scanner are you using? some of them can only scan to PDF when using the hardware interface, but can scan to image files when plugged into a computer
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astralbijection[
Hmm it looks like there is a scan to image function actually
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astralbijection[
Ah well it's fine
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astralbijection[
Since they're in PDFs, they're grouped up somewhat nicely
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astralbijection[
Alright! One folder down, 6 or so more to go
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astralbijection[
In the future I think I'll just write out these notes on a graphics tablet and render to SVG hahaha
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Loqi
ahahaha
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astralbijection[
Who programmed loqi to be a smartass lmao
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[jgmac1106]
loqi did, that's why we are all afraid
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astralbijection[
It seems that at some point, I switched from dating my notes with MM/DD/YY to YYYY-MM-DD
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barnabywalters
yesss ISO8601 ftw
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astralbijection[
When I tag and collate these notes later I'm gonna add a metadata field saying what it's dated in lol
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astralbijection[
Some arent even MM/DD, they're M/D or even M/DD
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astralbijection[
It's extremely cursed
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astralbijection[
Hell, some arent even dated, which is why I'm making sure to scan them in a specific order so I can establish a timeframe for the note
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[chrisaldrich]
I was originally going to post it in #indieweb-chat as an excellent blogpost, but the Facebook/Faebook conversation earlier made me think that Facebook (and other social silos) is about power-over while the IndieWeb frames things as about power-with or power-to: https://www.catswetel.com/blog/2021/5/4/an-extended-subtweet-on-power.
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[tantek]
faceboot is the silo for fans of Orwell
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[tantek]
Do we need an updated parody version for Facebook? Sharing is strength. Doomscrolling is peace. Attention span is slavery.
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[KevinMarks]
Ignorance is monetizable * War is not our fault * Freedom is deprecated
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[tantek]
some good jams there
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[tantek]
Ignorance is profit. Extremism is peace. Privacy is slavery.
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jacky
very 1984-y lol
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neshpion
Ignorance is what we say it is. Echo-chambers are peace. Privacy is suspicious and probably should be illegal.
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neshpion
it's not very elegant ;-;
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[aciccarello]
That "Privacy is suspicious and probably should be illegal" is on point though