#indieweb 2021-05-06

2021-05-06 UTC
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[KevinMarks]
There's a great essay on 1984 in "Publics and Counterpublics"
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KartikPrabhu
aaronpk ^^?
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KartikPrabhu
oops not [KevinMarks] but the spammer get a +v
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[KevinMarks]
Winston trying to write his blog to the future but being interrupted by the telescreen
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[tantek]
KartikPrabhu see #indieweb-chat
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[chrisaldrich]
Move fast and break things. * Surveillance capitalism is freedom. * We'll do better in the future.
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maxwelljoslyn
Welcome Helix Cao :)
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maxwelljoslyn
We've had so many new HWC attendees this year!
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BrittSSLLC
How's the gathering today?
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BrittSSLLC
.. good I hope. I just saw it's happening today
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BrittSSLLC
I'm in NM, USA
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maxwelljoslyn
BrittSSLLC: It's going well ! If you want to join the Zoom meeting you can find the link here https://events.indieweb.org/2021/05/homebrew-website-club-the-americas-rh2z4XDHUWpE
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Loqi
LIVE NOW: Homebrew Website Club - The Americas
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BrittSSLLC
thanks. I would but do not have very much online data use available now
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jacky
just added the interest blocks for ^
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GWG
To Bee or Not to Bee https://indieweb.org/mascot That is the question.
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jacky
dropped off from the call; have to have some dinner o/
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[fluffy]
did somebody say bee
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[chrisaldrich]
What is a hobby?
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Loqi
Because there is as broad an array of types of websites as there are people, a motivating personal factor for joining the IndieWeb may entail a particular use case one has in mind for what they want to do online or how they'd like to interact with others https://indieweb.org/hobby
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[chrisaldrich]
What are cupcakes?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "cupcakes" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "cupcakes is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek]
cupcakes are /food
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[Murray]
man, it feels like mycelium are really having a moment in the cultural zeitgeist right now 😄 love the mascot idea, some interesting thoughts already!
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doosboox
[Murray]: Mycelium?
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[Murray]
see https://indieweb.org/mascot but they're the "root" networks of fungi, a fairly niche concept. Except, what with tech companies getting into mycelium printing, NASA ploughing money into it for potentail space uses, _Star Trek_ using it as a centre point of a new series, etc. I just keep seeing it crop up 😄
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doosboox
I was wondering if you meant the fungi root system or some new technical thing :D
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Loqi
hey [Murray] doosboox, we try to keep jargon out of this channel to make it more inviting to newcomers, can you move this to #indieweb-dev?
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doosboox
hahaha. "root system"
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Loqi
nice
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[Murray]
amazing 😄
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doosboox
I'm in a meeting with our legal and marketing teams about "personal data" in different contexts. It's a really complex issue.
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doosboox
Like, let's say a company has a facebook page and puts out a poll there. Who is the Controller for the resulting data? The answer is that it's both facebook and the company, jointly. Currently this means that EU companies are more or less incapable of communicating with people on facebook, since the Privacy Shield agreement with the US was
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doosboox
invalidated last year.
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[Murray]
I luckily no longer need to know the nitty gritty of GDPR, but that doesn't feel right to me (and certainly doesn't align with how EU companies are acting). At any rate, wouldn't that only matter if the poll data was PID? And what kind of poll has those results? (might want to move to #indieweb-chat I guess)
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doosboox
Depends on what you consider personal data. The fact that you as a user even participates in a survey means an opinion can be tied to you. The GDPR definition of "Personal Data" is a lot broader than the American legal definition of "Personally Identifiable Information"
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doosboox
but yeah, this is a discussion that can go on *forever* and is ongoing at several levels of the EU legal system
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[snarfed]
fortunately indieweb is largely exempt from GDPR. https://indieweb.org/GDPR , https://brid.gy/about#gdpr
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sknebel
... not getting into that debate again
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[KevinMarks]
POSSE << “Pluralistic is my mutli-channel publishing effort – a project to push the limits of POSSE (post own site, share everywhere)” https://pluralistic.net/2021/05/05/clarkes-third-law/#indistinguishable-from-magic
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Loqi
ok, I added "“Pluralistic is my mutli-channel publishing effort – a project to push the limits of POSSE (post own site, share everywhere)” https://pluralistic.net/2021/05/05/clarkes-third-law/#indistinguishable-from-magic" to the "See Also" section of /POSSE https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=75610&oldid=75394
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[grantcodes]
It is kinda similar to something I made https://complimentr.com
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[fluffy]
Reminds me of Badvogato and Adequacy.org (parodies of Advogato and Kuro5hin, respectively)
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