#indieweb 2021-08-17

2021-08-17 UTC
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Loqi
Countdown set by mblaney on 2016-08-17 at 12:04pm AEST
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aaronpk
5 years ago wow
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Loqi
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[jgmac1106]
fluffy's webmention.js only js on my site
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Loqi
[capjamesg] My Micropub endpoint is working
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[grantcodes]
capjamesg++ yeah micropub is great
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Loqi
friendly reminder capjamesg[d], [grantcodes], would you mind moving this conversation (Micropub) to #indieweb-dev? thanks!
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Loqi
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Zegnat
capjamesg[d]: nice! Did you try different clients? :)
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capjamesg[d]
Zegnat I have known about Micropublish and Quill for a while.
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capjamesg[d]
But the original goal of this project was to make it easier for me to keep track of coffees I am drinking and relevant meta info.
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capjamesg[d]
So I thought building something myself would be wise. I don't support nearly as much as some other clients (photos, etc.).
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Zegnat
What is Teacup?
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Loqi
Teacup is a Micropub client for posting various types of food posts to any server supporting Micropub https://indieweb.org/Teacup
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capjamesg[d]
I have seen Teacup too.
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capjamesg[d]
But it wasn't quite what I was looking for.
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capjamesg[d]
Thanks grantcodes. I got your webmention by the way!
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capjamesg[d]
What is the use case for undelete?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "use case for undelete" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "use case for undelete is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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capjamesg[d]
I saw it in the spec but wondered if anyone has any thoughts on use cases.
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[grantcodes]
Undelete is like removing from trash.
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[grantcodes]
Its usefulness mostly depends on if your website permanently deletes content or marks content as "deleted" and hides it somehow. Seems like something that would be rarely used, but useful if you accidentally delete something 😛
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Loqi
[indienews] New post: "Planet Planet" https://beesbuzz.biz/blog/8400-Planet-Planet
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[tantek]
yes a forgiving UI should allow undeleting, similar to unsending
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capjamesg[d]
tantek I actually saw a blog post of yours on this.
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capjamesg[d]
About CRUD and how undelete should be part of it.
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[tantek]
capjamesg[d] yeah, in general the ability to undo actions in the UI is key to a forgiving (read: less anxiety-inducing) UI
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[tantek]
and in many (most?) cases, that UI support requires explicitly different handling under the covers at the protocol level
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jacky
the UI can provide that [un-deleting] but if the server doesn't, should it be emulated somehow?
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jacky
thinks not because that could be very misleading
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[tantek]
since the brainstorming about that is more dev-related I'll answer there
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capjamesg[d]
tantek that makes sense. It is not too difficult to implement because I don't delete files on the endpoint, only on GitHub. So I can restore them later.
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