#indieweb 2021-10-01

2021-10-01 UTC
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aaronpk
haha happy october UTC!
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aaronpk
my website just switched into halloween mode, forgot i did that
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GWG
aaronpk: What is that?
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aaronpk
my pixel grid changes to black and orange, and the map turns orange
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GWG
Interesting
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[tantek]
what is a holiday
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "holiday" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "holiday is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek]
what is seasonal
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "seasonal" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "seasonal is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek]
thought we had a page collecting examples of those things
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aaronpk
i thought so too
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aaronpk
what is holiday theme?
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Loqi
Holiday theme is a temporary custom CSS or other change in a website typically meant to visually indicate the celebration of a holiday or special occasion https://indieweb.org/holiday_theme
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[tantek]
finsta << 2021-09-30 NYTimes: [https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/30/style/finsta-instagram-accounts-senate.html ‘Finsta,’ Explained] / What is it, really? And can one commit to ending it? <blockquote>“Finsta,” a slang term, is widely accepted as a contraction of “fake” and “Insta” (short for Instagram). It is neither an official designation nor a type of account offered by Facebook.</blockquote>
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Loqi
ok, I added "2021-09-30 NYTimes: [https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/30/style/finsta-instagram-accounts-senate.html ‘Finsta,’ Explained] / What is it, really? And can one commit to ending it? <blockquote>“Finsta,” a slang term, is widely accepted as a contraction of “fake” and “Insta” (short for Instagram). It is neither an official designation nor a type of account offered by Facebook.</blockquote>" to a brand new "See Also" section of /finsta https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=77180&oldid=45341
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capjamesg[d]
Some feedback from a friend (who can code) on our /why page:
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capjamesg[d]
"There's the "why join indieweb" point, and "why make your own website" point. For the latter, I think the above comment is mostly my position: it could be more succinctly made. I also think it would be a good idea to consider "what are the most important reasons to make a website for *most people* and list those first," in an effort to market to as large an audience as possible."
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capjamesg[d]
"For example, instead of saying "Better UI/UX. E.g. better navigation and embedding than Twitter, a simple citation UI." I might say something like, "while many people are comfortable and happy with the design of today's social networks, having a personal site allows you to experiment with your own imagination and show off your personality online in a way such sites don't allow."
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capjamesg[d]
I wonder if we should have a clean /why page and a /why-brainstorm page where we brainstorm ideas.
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capjamesg[d]
At the moment our /why page is a bit long, repetitive, and has quite a bias towards "why have a site" versus "why join the IndieWeb"
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capjamesg[d]
I also think we need to be a bit more cognizant of the varied target audiences we can expect.
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capjamesg[d]
"On my blog I have control & agency. Full server logs, ability to block abusive referrers, control of comments." is a great quote / reason why one might want to start a site but that means almost nothing to somebody who doesn't know how to code.
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capjamesg[d]
"By publishing on your own site with good simple ad-free HTML you get better search engine rankings for your ideas than any ad-packed js;dr silo. "
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capjamesg[d]
Another example:
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petermolnar
capjamesg[d]: I'll repyl in #indieweb-meta , that is a more fitting place for this conversation, but those are really good insights!
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GWG
I feel like I need a really good Indieweb discussion today. Anyone have a topic they are passionate about?
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mambang[m]
I have a query. If someone mentioned my website url including the header id (example. site/post/123#header-id), it seem won't appear on my url because the normal visiting link are example.site/post/123
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mambang[m]
But the mentioned data exist on webmention.io, it just like mismatch because of the target. Do this is a issue?
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GWG
Well, I'm not sure how Webmention.io handles fragment urls
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GWG
[aaronpk]: Do you know?
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mambang[m]
attached 2 json for more understanding. 1. the normal wm-target https://paste.debian.net/1214001/ and 2. wm-url with header-id https://paste.debian.net/1214002/
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Loqi
[kaushalmodi] #106 Support merging mentions to post subsections to the post Permalink mentions
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mambang[m]
ok GWG . noted
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GWG
Can't promise anything.. I'm not a user or developer of webmention.io, but you can also manually send the mention without the fragment
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