#indieweb 2021-10-20

2021-10-20 UTC
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[timothy_chambe]
Hi everyone:
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[timothy_chambe]
I wanted to do an update and two requests about the Mastodon instance I created focused on the Indieweb, named indieweb.social. It's been live for well over a year and grew in part out of discussions in this slack group.
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[timothy_chambe]
The mission statement for that was to be place where we could evangelize Indieweb tech and ideas to the #Fediverse, as well as engage and see where ideas from that area could gel with IndieWeb and related efforts. This instance was a place to intentionally cross those two streams of Indieweb and Fediverse development and thinking.
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[timothy_chambe]
Right now we are about the 6th largest tech focused Instance on the Join Mastodon site:
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[timothy_chambe]
We have had 1.2 thousand people create their Mastodon accounts on this instance. Many many more reading content federated out from this site. You can browse those here: https://indieweb.social/explore
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[timothy_chambe]
As an instance of users, we've created a lot of Indieweb and related posts there. And we repost "This Week in Inidieweb" to the group as regular posts.
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[timothy_chambe]
My first request: is there places in the IndieWeb Wiki that this can be featured? Any placement in the wiki or in any emails would be very appreciated.
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[timothy_chambe]
Second Request: we try to encourage folks there to follow any IndieWeb thought leaders that POSSE and syndicate out their accounts to Mastodon.
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[timothy_chambe]
Here are the ones we posted on a page I've not updated in some while:
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[timothy_chambe]
Is anyone here want to be added, or has any recommendations LMK.
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[timothy_chambe]
Thanks.
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[tantek]
[timothy_chambe]++ amazing! And thanks for the update
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Loqi
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[tantek]
We should definitely highlight it anywhere Mastodon is documented on the Wiki
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[tantek]
what is Mastodon
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Loqi
Mastodon is an open source social network project that supports some IndieWeb building blocks like microformats2 & rel-me, and has a federation of many instances, including https://indieweb.social/ for IndieWeb fans https://indieweb.org/Mastodon
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[tantek]
^ [timothy_chambe] is that accurate?
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[jeremycherfas]
[chrisaldrich] My latest newsletter featured an amazing story of 200 pages of a lost 13th century Arabic cookbook being discovered in the British Library in a 15th century book on pharmacology.
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capjamesg[d]
I have never used Mastodon. Maybe I should try it?
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Ruxton
i tried to mastodon-compat my indieweb wordpress install and got lost
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[tantek]
More on gardening metaphors (not sure how many of these apply to “digital gardens”) https://www.instagram.com/p/CVOMVdQP-7o/
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nekr0z
Why POSSE to Mastodon at all? Don't we have fed.brid.gy?
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[snarfed]1
nekr0z true! Bridgy Fed is nontrivial to set up though
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nekr0z
[snarfed]1: neither is Mastodon...
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[snarfed]1
sure it is, you pick an instance and create an account. same basic flow as any silo
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nekr0z
I'd argue that setting up one redirect and adding one syndication link is not much harded if you already have an IndieWeb-enabled site.
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nekr0z
s/harded/harder/
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[snarfed]1
I'd like to think so too! but by the numbers, the majority of IndieWeb users don't run their own server. they're on micro.blog, or wordpress.com, or similar
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[snarfed]1
other relevant numbers: Bridgy Fed launched 4y ago but only 111 people (domains) have ever used it. Mastodon support in normal Bridgy has only been around half as long, launched 2y ago, but has 344 users, 3x as many
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nekr0z
also, mastodon breaks brigy fed compatibility every now and then, yes
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nekr0z
still, I think bridgy fed is a conceptually superior approach
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[snarfed]1
totally! me too!
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[timothy_chambe]
↩️ Yes, that's great.
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[timothy_chambe]
↩️ It's a network of about 4 million distributed instances, a lot like Twitter but with rougher edges technically. I've found good tech discussions and it is maybe the most used truly decentralized social effort to date, but that is a small pool. I am intersted in it from ActivityPub standpoint.
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[timothy_chambe]
↩️ I federate to it from Micro.blog who has built a fairly straightforward means to do so for those who blog on their platform.
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petermolnar
> conceptually superior approach
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petermolnar
it is; it's also a LOT harder to make people understand how to follow your site that way
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petermolnar
read: they need a button to click
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[fluffy]
↩️ [timothy_chambe] just so you know, slack threads aren't supported on the various other chat interfaces, so their use is strongly discouraged.
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[schmarty]
ooh that is an interesting topic to add to /Mastodon ! i don't see any IndieWeb examples in there of "follow on Mastodon/ActivityPub" UIs.
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aaronpk
i built the same follow mechanism that mastodon has into my site
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petermolnar
because you're mad, and I admire you for that :D
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@m_older
Because of moving and new jobs and so on, I've had to do a lot of paperwork and identification stuff lately, and it keeps bringing me back to Seeing Like a State and how desperately governments try to pin down something as slippery as identity.
(twitter.com/_/status/1450474094357532672)
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capjamesg[d]
Can someone send me a Reacji?
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[snarfed]1
capjamesg you can always send yourself one!
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[tantek]
who is capjamesg
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Loqi
James writes a blog about coffee and the IndieWeb https://indieweb.org/User:Jamesg.blog
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[tantek]
hmm, looks like I need to add some code to prevent POSSEing simple reacji posts
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[tantek]
that's non-trivial work
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aaronpk
ah yes, the eternal "is this string a single emoji" question
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[snarfed]1
aaronpk don't you have an entire repo for that? or someone?
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aaronpk
i sure do
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aaronpk
with tests
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[snarfed]1
what a world we live in
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[tantek]
^ this is what happens when standards make simple things hard
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[tantek]
💁‍♂️🦋 Is this a single character?
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[KevinMarks]
Do you return the plaintext fallback for things like ™ and math letters
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aaronpk
omg [tantek]++
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Loqi
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[tantek]
the answer is yes, it's the combined anime-guy-butterfly-asking-question-meme character, to be proposed to Unicode 😛
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[tantek]
thankfully the use-case I have is more easily solved with asking a different question: does this reply have any literal @-names, if not, then don't POSSE to Twitter
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[tantek]
(also useful for comment on blog posts that lack their own POSSE tweet equivalents)
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[tantek]
for commenting* on
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[tantek]
(sorry this is a bit #indieweb-dev -y, will continue there)
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[aciccarello]
lol, this is a funny project. It seems odd that they limited posts but not comments. https://minus.social/