#indieweb 2021-10-25

2021-10-25 UTC
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[tantek] there is *so* much mid to late 2000s history on pwbiki
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[tantek] er, pbwiki / pbworks
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[tantek] like social media / technology development / small group standards history
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Adding Reacji support to my Micropub editor" https://jamesg.blog/2021/10/25/reacjis
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capjamesg[d] reacji << https://jamesg.blog/2021/10/25/reacjis
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Loqi ok, I added "https://jamesg.blog/2021/10/25/reacjis" to the "See Also" section of /reacji https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=77586&oldid=77498
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[KevinMarks] https://twitter.com/adriennelaf/status/1452591443172859906?s=21
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@AdrienneLaF I’ve spent the past several weeks reading the Facebook Papers, a gigantic collection of internal documents from Facebook unlike anything I’ve encountered. A few observations: (1/8) https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/10/facebook-papers-democracy-election-zuckerberg/620478/ (twitter.com/_/status/1452591443172859906)
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[tantek] oof that's some article
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[chrisaldrich] Has anyone checked out Remark.as? Looks like its in the Write.as family, but for commenting. They've released a newsletter/blog feature that allows private replies via email which might be an interesting UI pattern/example for private posts/conversations: https://blog.remark.as/introducing-private-letters
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[tantek] hey here's an IndieWeb related question regarding that Atlantic article, does anyone *** out curse words on their blogs? Or have their tools auto-* them out? E.g. "f[*]cking sh[*]t ton" in The Atlantic article
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[tantek] what is safe mode
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "safe mode" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "safe mode is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] hmmm, not sure what to call this self-**** behavior when publishing
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capjamesg[d] That’s a tough one.
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capjamesg[d] Self censoring doesn’t seem appropriate.
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capjamesg[d] I guess it’s more a style thing.
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capjamesg[d] What is a style guide?
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Loqi This style guide is a set of recommendations when using indieweb terminology https://indieweb.org/style-guide
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[tantek] yeah it's not quite self-censoring which seems like outright blocking of content
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capjamesg[d] Maybe not on the style guide page.
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[tantek] in fact it may be a workaround for actual existing network censors who do keyword detection to block content (e.g. for schools & businesses)
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[tantek] or to not show up in a search engine search for certain terms 👀 😂
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[tantek] plenty of use-cases
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[tantek] That Atlantic article tho. I can't decide how much social media creates new (amplified) harm vs how much it's a honeypot for exposing antisocial folks that are easily riled up?
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[tantek] I mean just search that Atlantic article for "selfie", like the whole social media trend/pressure to "perform" somehow expanded to folks incriminating themselves by *broadcasting* that they’re doing really dumb & illegal things?
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gRegor self-bleeping?
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capjamesg[d] Those are good points tantek.
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capjamesg[d] This would make for a good wiki page.
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capjamesg[d] Once we can define the term 😅
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capjamesg[d] I like your suggestion gRegor.
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[tantek] because this is a common publishing practice, it has to have a name
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[tantek] I feel like [jz] would know
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[tantek] an *existing name
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[tantek] also would be cool to have your publishing systems automatically [*] out a splatlist of words for the unlogged in public (search engines 😛) and then maybe maybe make it an opt-in thing to unblur if folks signed-in with IndieAuth
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capjamesg[d] That is a cool idea!
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neonace Typographical Bleeping? https://www.dictionary.com/e/what-the/
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[chrisbergr] I'm working on something that scans the content for certain words (smoking, drinking) and, if existing, hides the content behind a "Show anyway" button. Like some services do with NSFW or violence, just for old content of mine, which I don't stand behind anymore, but which should remain as a memory.
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[tantek] like what's a vegetarian to do with old food photos of meat?
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[tantek] neonace++ good find!
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Loqi neonace has 1 karma over the last year
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[chrisbergr] If I ever took the final step to becoming a vegan, this would definitely be a usecase
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[tantek] feels more like curating your archives / default presentation thereof, rather than something in the present. also an interesting problem, feels a little different though. In such cases, I wonder if displaying the "alt" text as the default instead of the image would work
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[chrisbergr] Very interesting idea for pictures.
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[chrisbergr] So this remains as a memory for me, but I can tell my visitors that I don't think it's good to have written something like that.
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[chrisbergr] But I am also about texts. e.g. I have a PESOS post from 2011 when I landed in Frankfurt coming from China. I wrote that I want to smoke 2-3 packs of cigarettes at a time. That was my feeling back then, and also the final post of my trip. I could delete, or comment accordingly and hide.
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[chrisbergr] But yes, that is of course a completely different topic than buring out specific words
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[chrisbergr] • bluring out
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[jacky] random p3k service question: if I wanted to "preview" a post before publishing it, the convention expected by Quill is for me to put it into a "draft" mode? Like `post-status=draft`?
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aaronpk that's what i've been doing
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[jacky] gotcha!
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[jacky] also just checked https://quill.p3k.io/docs/post-status
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aaronpk i usually post them as drafts to my website, then do some final tweaks on the site before making it public
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[jacky] I'm thinking _dangerously_ about allowing my site to send over a CSS path scoped to a particular element that I could use in my editor
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[jacky] every time I think about this, I see red alarm bells going off, lol
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[jacky] bringing this to #indieweb-dev
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