#indieweb 2021-11-03
2021-11-03 UTC
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capjamesg[d] " Its basic point is summarised in one of Paul’s characteristic bits of aphoristic wisdom: “In general, when I hear the phrase ‘There’s an app for that’, my first question is: ‘Does there need to be?’”
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[KevinMarks] Does she realise that DVDs and CDs are digital too?
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[chrisaldrich] what are publics?
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Loqi publics are the combined set of people who make up the readership or audience of a post https://indieweb.org/publics
# [chrisaldrich] Great IndieWebby quote from Neil: "I want a community, not an audience.
# [chrisaldrich] Audience is stuff like reach, personality/celebrity, spectacle, anxiety, alienation, competition.
# [chrisaldrich] Community is more like voice, discussion, comradery." (via https://commonplace.doubleloop.net/journal/2021-10-30)
# [chrisaldrich] doubleloop++
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doubleloop[m] Hey thanks [chrisaldrich] ! Funnily enough that comment (when shared on my stream) had the largest 'audience' I've ever had. https://doubleloop.net/2021/10/30/7621/
# [chrisaldrich] doubleloop, Oddly I found it hiding in the anagora and had to track down the canonical URL to cite it. 🙂
# [chrisaldrich] Glad I found it through the community space rather than the audience space. 😁
# [chrisaldrich] irony++
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tracydurnell[d] That Guardian article had a bit on periods that reminded me of pro-Internet linguist Gretchen McCulloch's book "Because Internet" - would recommend to anyone interested in how the internet has changed writing and communication styles and doesn't think it's a bad thing 😉
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# tracydurnell[d] (also she can feel however she wants about tablets but I consider my Kindle an accessibility device for controlling type display so I can read without glasses, and helping stay focused on what I'm reading)
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# capjamesg[d] Great comment [chrisaldrich] and doubleloop[m]!
# capjamesg[d] I haven’t read the guardian article yet. It’s on my to read list. It’s been a hectic day.
# capjamesg[d] I have heard of that book but haven’t read it yet. I’ll add it to my to read list.
# Loqi Longevity is the goal of keeping your data as future-friendly and future-proof as possible; it is one of the indieweb principles https://indieweb.org/longevity
# capjamesg[d] Thanks 🙂
# capjamesg[d] I bought a vinyl last month. Where does that leave me 😂
# capjamesg[d] (I need to get a new record player now though as my old one is long gone)
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[tantek] Longevity << 2021-11-03 The Guardian: [https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/nov/03/what-does-tech-take-from-us-meet-the-writer-who-has-counted-100-big-losses What does tech take from us? Meet the writer who has counted 100 big losses] / We have never been more reliant on the internet – yet Pamela Paul still gets DVDs in the post and buys CD players.
# Loqi ok, I added "2021-11-03 The Guardian: [https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/nov/03/what-does-tech-take-from-us-meet-the-writer-who-has-counted-100-big-losses What does tech take from us? Meet the writer who has counted 100 big losses] / We have never been more reliant on the internet – yet Pamela Paul still gets DVDs in the post and buys CD players." to the "See Also" section of /longevity https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=77673&oldid=76643
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# capjamesg[d] j12t I’m curious why you bought a floppy disk.
# capjamesg[d] I thought about getting one but don’t have a reader or a use case haha.
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# [chrisaldrich] What is a streak?
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "streak" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "streak is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# [chrisaldrich] What is gamification?
# Loqi Gamification is applying the principles of game design to other software - originally focused on usability, it has become a byword for dark patterns exploiting intermittent reinforcement and leader boards https://indieweb.org/Gamification
# [chrisaldrich] I'll circle back to this in the office, but thought this was an interesting pattern https://twitter.com/nickang/status/1456001796879572996
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@nickang Interesting choice by @readwiseio to make streaks recoverable from. I feel like I'm given a chance at correcting a wrong. Now feeling like all streak counters should function this way https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDTBoI_XoAMgWDH.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1456001796879572996)
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[schmarty] chrisaldrich: nice! haha, that is how i treat Eternal Caturday on my site. "miss a day? just post twice."
# [chrisaldrich] 😽 😽
# capjamesg[d] Ah, that’s cool!
# capjamesg[d] I haven’t seen that logic before on any app. Interesting.
# capjamesg[d] This is re: making up for missed streaks.
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edgeduchess[d] I think you can pay for it in duoling
# edgeduchess[d] *duolingo
# [schmarty] "nice streak you have there. would be a shame to break it. maybe toss us a few bucks to look the other way."
# [chrisaldrich] Timehop used to have a daily streak thing with a slightly long grace period, but they got rid of it... Lemme check... 1215 days ago.
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# [chrisaldrich] One podcast at a time (or podcast network at a time) the open web slowly disappears into the silos... https://twitter.com/mmasnick/status/1456032413952446464
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@mmasnick And... @spotify announces it's killing another open podcast, and turning it into proprietary Spotify audio that you can only listen to on Spotify's awful player. I was a huge supporter of @Gimletmedia and it's disappointing to see Spotify systematically lock up its podcasts. https://twitter.com/eltshow/status/1455209485711126532 (twitter.com/_/status/1456032413952446464)
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