#indieweb 2021-11-09
2021-11-09 UTC
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[Jeff] yeah, well if this is starting fresh, there's a good opportunity to make it right. and since it's indieweb, people can remove the widget if they find it's not so relevant for their page
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capjamesg[d] [Jeff] drewdevault.com has a project called OpenRing where he shares blog articles by some other bloggers he likes. I'd recommend taking a look at that! It's not exactly what you described. I like your idea!
# capjamesg[d] Re: discovery. I'd recommend reading this page:
# capjamesg[d] What is discovery?
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Loqi Discovery is a variety of methods for finding content, websites, communities, or people to follow on the web including search, directories, recommendation engines, tags, or other serendipitous methods https://indieweb.org/discovery
# capjamesg[d] Good point [KevinMarks
# capjamesg[d] *] I have not thought about that.
# capjamesg[d] I did think about adding a "Other bloggers who write about this topic" widget so you could find other *blogs* that may write about, say, "coffee," rather than just web pages.
# capjamesg[d] Interests would be determined using h-cards.
# capjamesg[d] [Jeff] Plugging my own work but here's IndieWeb Search: https://indieweb-search.jamesg.blog. It's still very much a work in progress.
# [tantek]1 Yes you could do “see other people with shared interest(s)” (eg tags/categories on their profile), or the same per post (tags/categories on the entry)
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[KevinMarks] The original rel=tag model was designed to link to a page that showed related posts - a technorati page we offered or a local page on the same site. The hope was that the technorati page would be good enough for people to choose it. Of course that now means there are a lot of links out there to the now zombie tag pages at technorati.com
# [tantek]1 Lessons learned right [KevinMarks] ? Good thing we also recommended Wikipedia as a tag link destination
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petermolnar The trouble with the recommendation engine is that it either has to determine the topic from the text, or it needs a taxonomy system. Either way it is disturbingly easy to cheat most of these systems, which is what lead to modern search engines - see altavista and trusting the meta description.
# petermolnar Anyway, I'd love to help, but I'm also not too dreamy about it.
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# [tantek]1 You’re right about the skepticism for meta keywords and altavista getting trivially spammed.
# [tantek]1 The use of *visible* tag links in Technorati helped a lot with that. Didn’t eliminate it but it was much better
# [tantek]1 Similarly Google improved on Altavista with indexing visible words and hyperlinks
# [tantek]1 visible words *in* hyperlinks
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# [KevinMarks] bill to require non-algorithmic feeds https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21100363-buck_030_xml-filter-bubble
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# capjamesg[d] Oh wow.
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# [Jeff] ↩️ cool, thank you! yeah having a centralized crawl of the pages seems like a great milestone
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# capjamesg[d] IndieWeb Search pages are all marked up as h-feeds so they can be easily consumed. And every search results page has an API wrapper with a bit more detail.
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[chrisbergr] capjamesg[d], I guess your link is no longer up to date https://indieweb.org/search#capjamesg
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