#indieweb 2022-01-18
2022-01-18 UTC
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "How I post notes on my website" https://jamesg.blog/2022/01/18/how-i-post-notes/
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JBritSteele Does anyone have a banner ad program to recommend?
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# JBritSteele got it. I'm just trying to make money to support my living and work
# JBritSteele I had just a monetary contribution page, but it's not sufficient apparently
# [Joe_Crawford] At one time a person could slap Google Ads on a page that was interesting in some way and rely on a steady flow of money from it. For a while, maybe 15 years ago, I had one page which generated $50/month with views and clicks for a side banner that just sat there on the page. The monetization model is continuously evolving. A lot of of it seems, now, to be based around making the reading experience as intruded upon as possible:
# [Joe_Crawford] interstitials, ads that insert themselves into reading flow, etc, this includes the most well known ad system: Google Ads.
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aaronpk i do have ads on my site using https://www.ethicalads.io but they are a very niche focused ad community
# [Joe_Crawford] That looks pretty good aaronpk. I have mostly ignored the ad space though I do have some google ads with legacy code on very old pages. Bookmarking for potential use.
# [Joe_Crawford] aaronpk++
# JBritSteele I just would put it on the site portions that would reasonably include it
# JBritSteele like maybe just one of the areas
# JBritSteele I have a lot like picture gallery, media player, how-to's, etc.
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[grantcodes] Carbon ads I think has a decent reputation? Don't know much else apart from they are not obnoxious 😛
# JBritSteele I've gone with something
# JBritSteele I'd be happy with even just some additional income, just some to start, with this site
# JBritSteele I've never made any money from my sites. I had a very small credit balance with an ad program that was later inaccessible, heh
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capjamesg[d] What is web monetization?
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "web monetization" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "web monetization is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# capjamesg[d] What is monetization?
# Loqi business models are ways to offer indieweb products and or services that users pay for both for their own benefit, and in support an open indie web https://indieweb.org/monetization
# capjamesg[d] I think there's some kind of web monetization tag you can add to your site but I don't know how / if it works well.
# capjamesg[d] Very true. Let's take technical details to #dev.
# JBritSteele I think the one service had a really good idea with ad revenue and particpant inter-networking
# JBritSteele They don't seem to be running anymore
# JBritSteele The first time, although a bit late into the WWW area, I got any large amount of visitors, was from being in a webring
# JBritSteele I want to see if my site gets approved with this service
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[aciccarello] The "Why we don't sell ads" link on the whatsapp blog is unsurprisingly dead
# [aciccarello] Oh, it still exists. Just URL changed
# [aciccarello] I don't think this has gained much traction but https://webmonetization.org/ is worth mentioning
# [aciccarello] Currently Coil is the only provider
# capjamesg[d] Yes, that is it!
# capjamesg[d] We don’t have a page for that on the wiki I don’t think.
# capjamesg[d] What is web monetization?
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "web monetization" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "web monetization is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# [aciccarello] There's a stub for coil
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# capjamesg[d] Is it worth setting up?
# [aciccarello] My impression is that most sites using it either will disable ads if there's web monetization or won't have ads at all so it seems like only people who benevolently want to support creators would sign up which means probably a minimal payout.
# capjamesg[d] Ah sorry Loqi.
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