#indieweb 2022-02-10

2022-02-10 UTC
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Loqi
[indienews] New post: "Release v0.5.0 · microformats/php-mf2" https://github.com/microformats/php-mf2/releases/tag/v0.5.0 (from https://aaronparecki.com/2022/02/09/8/)
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[tantek]
woohoo!
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Loqi
yay!
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[chrisaldrich]
"_website redesign_ is now a synonym for _bare-knuckle boxing"_ is such a great quote from https://dancohen.org/2019/07/23/engagement-is-the-enemy-of-serendipity/
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[chrisaldrich]
But Cohen's unwritten bigger question in that piece: "How can we better design our personal websites for the sort of serendipity of content that one finds in a physical newspaper?" 🤔
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[chrisaldrich]
What is serendipity?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "serendipity" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "serendipity is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek]
Twitter << Downvote feature: 2022-02-04 Washington Post:[https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/02/04/twitter-downvote/ Twitter got a ‘downvote’ button. Here’s what happens if you click it.] / Can other people see your downvotes? How will this affect your timeline?
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Loqi
ok, I added "Downvote feature: 2022-02-04 Washington Post:[https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/02/04/twitter-downvote/ Twitter got a ‘downvote’ button. Here’s what happens if you click it.] / Can other people see your downvotes? How will this affect your timeline?" to the "See Also" section of /Twitter https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=79556&oldid=79418
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[tantek]
^ captured there for now. curious what other folks think. are there enough examples like Digg, Reddit, YouTube etc. to create a separate downvote page?
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[KevinMarks]
a physical newspaper is a lot bigger than a mobile phone, which is where most sites are read now.
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jeremy
I wonder whether that's true for the kind of personal websites that we might call blogs, that they are mostly read on mobile phones.
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Murray[d]
That serendipity article is interesting, but wow, I do not associate it with newspapers 😂 In my experience, the "sections" just made it easy to throw away the stuff I don't care about, and the main paper is often frustratingly difficult to navigate. I get way more out of digital spaces that offer "similar posts", "latest posts", and "top posts" type quick links. Guess that's just different ways of consuming information
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Murray[d]
Old school Gizmodo Network was an ideal case of this for me: specialised content siloes that would draw me in (I read, at minimum, the headline and blurb for every io9 article for about three years because I found that content so particularly tailored to my interests) and then cross-link to sister sites or subjects that would result in rabbit holing for hours. I've never had anything even close to that in print media 🤷‍♂️
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Murray[d]
Heck, I discovered io9 via a cross-post on Kotaku, and if you look at my life and hobbies now, that "serendipitous" discovery had a seriously outsized impact on me 😄
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jamietanna[m]
Hey I'm seeing no messages on chat.indieweb.org, is everything OK?
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sknebel
seems broken, yes -> see -meta
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[tonz]
After having made a basic micropub client last month, I’ve now made a simple microsub client, and added a response form with micropub. It’s shaped to my own prefs and a personal tool, but am pleased with that it actually works. https://www.zylstra.org/blog/2022/02/posting-directly-from-my-feed-reader-to-my-blog/ Now can turn towards adding looks, and additional functionality.
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sknebel
nice :)
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[tantek]
tonz++ well done! Are you able to use your Bookmark UI to also send a post to IndieNews? 🙂
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Loqi
tonz has 4 karma in this channel over the last year (8 in all channels)
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[tantek]
e.g. bookmark that very post to IndieNews 🙂
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[tonz]
I hadn’t considered IndieNews really. But it would be easy to add a syndication link based on the use of the IndieWeb tag. Also posting it to the English, Dutch or German channel should be easy, as posts are already tagged in their language. I’ll add it to the list of tweaks to make.
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Loqi
[tonz] has 5 karma in this channel over the last year (9 in all channels)
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capjamesg[d]
I’m trying to think of ways to send likes to arbitrary URLs from my microsub reader so I can discontinue my micropub client potentially.
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[tantek]
that's a great idea to auto-syndicate to IndieNews if you happen to tag your post with the IndieWeb tag, as well as autodetection of which language section of IndieNews to post to!
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GWG
[tonz]: We should talk Yarns at some point
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[tonz]
@GWG ok, that sounds like a good idea
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@EssentialRandom
We talk too much about decentralization and not enough about interoperability
(twitter.com/_/status/1491308729677262849)
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Loqi
[indienews] New post: "Posting Directly From My Feed Reader To My Blog" https://www.zylstra.org/blog/2022/02/posting-directly-from-my-feed-reader-to-my-blog/
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Loqi
[indienews] New post: "Automatic Language Sensitive Syndication to IndieWeb News" https://www.zylstra.org/blog/2022/02/automatic-language-sensitive-syndication-to-indieweb-news/
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[tonz]
Ha it works [tantek] see ^^^
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[KevinMarks]
nicely done
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[tantek]
tonz++ brilliant! and wow that was fast!
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Loqi
tonz has 6 karma in this channel over the last year (10 in all channels)
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gRegor
what is linktree?
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Loqi
Linktree is a link in bio service for publishing a flat list of links at a short vanity path (like Twitter and other social media silos) for what appears to be for the sole purpose of seeming to provide multiple links from social media profiles like Instagram which only allow one clickable link in your profile https://indieweb.org/Linktree
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gRegor
what is link in bio
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Loqi
link in bio is a common expression on silos like Instagram which disallow linking from posts, directing viewers to the respective social media profile which usually allows at least one link, increasingly used to link to a link-in-bio service providing a flat list of links at a short vanity path https://indieweb.org/link_in_bio
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gRegor
A link-in-bio from Twitter that itself links to a linktree: https://www.epidemiologistkat.com/links. Guess it's more of an /elsewhere page since it's mostly profiles on other sites
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