#indieweb 2022-04-01

2022-04-01 UTC
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[tantek] anyone have any "strategies" for "dealing with" iCloud?
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[tantek] like yes there are advantages to putting multiple devices on the same iCloud account, and there are also advantages to giving some devices their own iCloud identifier
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[tantek] actually I think I mean Apple ID
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aaronpk i made an Apple ID for my cat and I use it on some secondary devices that I don't want everything to sync to
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[tantek] that makes sense
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[tantek] looks like creating an AppleID requires a phone number to at least receive a phone call
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[tantek] I don't remember that before
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[tantek] AppleID << Criticism: As of 2022 (perhaps earlier), creating a new AppleID requires a phone number that can receive a text message or a phone call.
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Loqi ok, I added "Criticism: As of 2022 (perhaps earlier), creating a new AppleID requires a phone number that can receive a text message or a phone call." to the "See Also" section of /Apple_ID https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=80530&oldid=45612
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[tantek] AppleID << Criticism: As of 2022, once you add a phone number to an AppleID (which Apple prompts you to do every time you upgrade your iOS or MacOS), you cannot remove it if it is the only number connected to the AppleID
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Loqi ok, I added "Criticism: As of 2022, once you add a phone number to an AppleID (which Apple prompts you to do every time you upgrade your iOS or MacOS), you cannot remove it if it is the only number connected to the AppleID" to the "See Also" section of /Apple_ID https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=80531&oldid=80530
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[KevinMarks] I like the idea of you using a public payphone, Hackers style, to create an AppleID
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[tantek] AppleID << If you have an existing AppleID *without* a phone number, DO NOT associate a phone number to it as you won't be able to de-associate it later.
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Loqi ok, I added "If you have an existing AppleID *without* a phone number, DO NOT associate a phone number to it as you won't be able to de-associate it later." to the "See Also" section of /Apple_ID https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=80532&oldid=80531
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beler hello, Im new, dont know where to start
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beler want to learn about the mechanisms of indieweb
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Darius_Dunlap[d] Welcome!
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[tantek] what is start
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Loqi Get started on the indieweb by connecting with the indiewebcamp community, getting a personal domain, a place for your content, and setting up your home page and other indieweb essentials https://indieweb.org/start
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[tantek] welcome beler! feel free to ask "what is" questions (like that ^) about any topic/noun that you think may be related to the IndieWeb!
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beler thank you
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beler I want to dig deeper into the protocols and mechanisms used.
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beler I want to understand how it works technically.
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e-snail beler: you'll find that technical discussion is on-topic over at #indieweb-dev, and the goal is to keep this one more people-centric
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beler how can I conenct to #indieweb-dev ?
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beler I can see #dev in the left menu
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e-snail that's it
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beler thansk
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e-snail #indieweb-dev is the full name; it also goes by -dev or #dev
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[tantek] e-snail++
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Loqi e-snail has 3 karma in this channel over the last year (6 in all channels)
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adstew1 /msg NickServ
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adstew that did not do what I expected haha
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adstew anyway hello :) ive been reading up on indieweb stuff for a while and finally got a site set up
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e-snail hi and welcome adstew! Do you have a link to your site?
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adstew hi thanks! yeah its just adstew.net - nothing much up there yet though
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e-snail lookin good! adstew++
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Loqi adstew has 1 karma over the last year
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[KevinMarks] Nice look, reminds me of my old company site from 1997
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[KevinMarks] https://web.archive.org/web/19970220031543/http://www.mmcorp.com/
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[KevinMarks] More like this page https://web.archive.org/web/19970220031619/http://www.mmcorp.com/mmcsite/news/news.html
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adstew ah yeah, that's awesome! if i had my way the whole internet would still look like this lol
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[KevinMarks] We did have some very good designers in house who would make sure that we got things looking seamless
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[tantek] 1990s << Good blog/news stream design example: https://web.archive.org/web/19970220031619/http://www.mmcorp.com/mmcsite/news/news.html
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Loqi ok, I added "Good blog/news stream design example: https://web.archive.org/web/19970220031619/http://www.mmcorp.com/mmcsite/news/news.html" to the "See Also" section of /1990s https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=80535&oldid=79447
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adstew yeah they did a great job, the design still holds up imo
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e-snail 🎶 the dream of the 90s is alive at IndieWeb 🎶
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[tantek] ok this is just mean (as an April 1 post) https://twitter.com/Twitter/status/1509951255388504066
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@Twitter we are working on an edit button (twitter.com/_/status/1509951255388504066)
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jacky lol very much so
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jacky https://twitter.com/Dictionarycom/status/1509952794337464321 LOL
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@Dictionarycom @Twitter https://www.dictionary.com/browse/unfunny (twitter.com/_/status/1509952794337464321)
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[schmarty] got 'em
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[tantek] nice
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[KevinMarks] They are editing other people's Web pages with their js
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[KevinMarks] I should write that up
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[tantek] [KevinMarks] agreed. Here's my attempt, is it too harsh of a shit-quote-post for that Twitter tweet? "In Twitter’s web, Twitter edits (embedded tweets on) your website, you do not edit your tweets"
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[tantek] where's the tweet where they admitted remove embeds from people's websites?
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Loqi hey [tantek]: we try to keep jargon (embedded, embeds) out of this channel to make it more inviting to newcomers, can you move this to #indieweb-dev?
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[tantek] oops
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[KevinMarks] https://twitter.com/tweetanor/status/1508876355873738752?s=20&t=WHavluDEngBD25NZIbV8Tg
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@tweetanor @kevinmarks @TwitterEng Hey Kevin! We're doing this to better respect when people have chosen to delete their Tweets. Very soon it'll have better messaging that explains why the content is no longer available :) my DMs are open if you'd like to chat more about this (twitter.com/_/status/1508876355873738752)
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Introducing tiktok-mf2.tanna.dev, for converting TikTok video metadata to Microformats2" https://www.jvt.me/posts/2022/04/01/tiktok-mf2/
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gRegor nice!
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jamietanna Doesn't work as perfectly as I'd hoped, but still a nice start :D
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