#indieweb 2022-05-03

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lagash eb: not that I'm aware of, but I'd watch https://annotator.apache.org/ and projects that will use it..
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "I love RSS. However, by using a third-party plugin to automatically generate the feed, I didn’t pay attention to how it could be improved. An occasional discussion on Mastodon prompted me to a ..." https://minutestomidnight.co.uk/blog/build-a-human-readable-rss-with-jekyll/
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Joel2 Hello folks
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sknebel hi
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Joel2 I figured you guys would have a good idea on this question
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Joel2 I have a webhost that uses wordpress, now I know that PHP is available, so I was wondering what's out there for Open source CMS/Blogging projects with light features, no google or big tech integration. Just a simple blog where I can add <tag> to existing layouts and what not, file uploader, ability to create directories etc
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Joel2 I miss old blogging days, I did a google search and seemed to find stuff that all had this integration. I don't want that, I'd prefer to share the .com with friends and family and whatnot, not rely on IMGUR... The Wild West 20 years ago I guess
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Joel2 I just really don't like wordpress
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[KevinMarks] Hi Joel2 - Known might suit for that, it's PHP/MySQL based and has good indieweb support.
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[KevinMarks] what is known?
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Loqi Known is an open publishing / community platform project https://indieweb.org/known
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Joel2 Ahhh, thanks, I'll look into this... Was looking at github and a lot of the ones I was finding haven't been updated in years... I once coded a CMS, Flatfile when I was in my teens but that was 20 years ago now and I've forgotten damn near everything
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petermolnar people used to work on Grav as well, but I don't know how that went
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Joel2 I am just now relearned new HTML/CSS/JS and it's progressing, a bit slowly but I think once you hit middle age you tend to lose the cognitive ability to (re)learn these things
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petermolnar https://getgrav.org/
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Joel2 I was going to pursue the tech side of the work force, but decided the blue collar life and regret it, haha... Rather enjoyed this aspect
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petermolnar > you tend to lose the cognitive ability to (re)learn these things
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petermolnar No. You lose the ability to go another circle, only to come back to as it was, but now with extra layers of abstraction. The web has an insane backwards complability to help with this :)
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Joel2 Will give these a look, also, I assume these are connected but I'm apart of the mastodon page as well indieweb.social
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Joel2 Not a big social media guy, just want a place I can share with a select few friends, ramblings and cat pictures and whatnot
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jeremycherfas !tell Joel2 My main site is on Grav and I would have to say it has become a bit too complex for my taste. I'm still using it, but barely exploiting its capabilities. I recently switched a WP site to ClassicPress and I am pretty happy with that.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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jeremycherfas I worry about WithKnown because despite everything it offers, it really isn't getting the attention it needs.
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Joel2 Yeah, I guess my problem with WP is I dislike elementor, I don't like features blocked by pay wall, I want to edit a style sheet myself, I want to add links with out going through 3 menus, etc
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Loqi Joel2: jeremycherfas left you a message 5 minutes ago: My main site is on Grav and I would have to say it has become a bit too complex for my taste. I'm still using it, but barely exploiting its capabilities. I recently switched a WP site to ClassicPress and I am pretty happy with that.
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Joel2 Thanks Jeremy
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jeremycherfas If you can host a ClassicPress site, that might work
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Joel2 what's the IRC address here, gonna swap to a client
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JoelSQ better
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jeremycherfas Welcome back
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JoelSQ Thanks Jeremy, see, already with a community that appreciates open source there's a warm welcome. Don't know what's going on with the world but that's becoming a rarety these days, but I digress... Got 3 to look into and another one that's from 2015, but like the idea of it so maybe work on that in my spare time so I can get back in touch with backend stuff later
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Joel2 weird...
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Joel2 how do you guys explain this? IRSSI doesn't have the same users in it
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Joel2 irc.freenode.net?
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JSQ There... That was confusing
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JSQ This Grav is pretty cool
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jeremycherfas It is. I like it a lot, although I am by no means a developer. I've made it do a few IndieWeb things for me, but not yet Micropub, although that has been on my list for a long time.
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JSQ I don't work a job, going to be going to take courses to join the tech world. I'm on disability and not able to do the blue collar stuff I once did, so gotta work to get a grasp on things now
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JSQ I installed this Atom editor, but for some reason it just opens and shuts down immediately
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AramZ-S[m] JSQ What operating system and version of the OS are you running?
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JSQ I was on debian 12 before, but decided to give Fedora 35 a try
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JSQ I know it worked on Debian
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[schmarty] welcome, JSQ! to keep discussion welcoming to non-technical folks, would y'all mind moving discussion about debugging software and Linux distributions to #indieweb-dev?
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jeremycherfas schmarty++ for channelling Loqi
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Loqi schmarty has 1 karma in this channel over the last year (19 in all channels)
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[schmarty] 🤖
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[schmarty] gives Loqi a coffee break
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jeremycherfas What is Loqi
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Loqi Loqi is a friendly and useful bot/digital therapist present in the IndieWeb discussion channels https://indieweb.org/Loqi
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Loqi loves the coffee break
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jeremycherfas JSQ ^^^
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JSQ sounds good, thanks Jer
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eb I have fixed the [[IRC]] links to refer to libera in relevent places
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eb Sorry for the confusion
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eb JSQ: We are in the same boat with no programming job! I've been a essential worker but programming is absolutely my passion, all I can think about on slow days haha!
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eb sometimes I wonder..m
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eb same to Joel2 ! welcome to our community
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JSQ https://www.squonks.ca/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/breakfast-768x1024.jpg
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JSQ Breakfast is served
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[chrisaldrich]1 Good morning to all the new folks.
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[chrisaldrich]1 I'm reasonably technically oriented (now), but I'll say that there's a lot of programming and technology I've learned over the past few years just following the chat channels here in IndieWeb. There's a lot of material you'll pick up from the community by seeing some of the professionals solving problems here in real time that you'd probably never find in books or that would take a decade or more to pick up on the job. community++
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eb It's amazing what one can achieve when they stop providing customer support to be honest
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eb I used to run a little service that provided me a tad little drop of income, but the effort I put into providing support was in no way close to being paid for by subscriptions
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eb So, I write a mad selfhosting guide and moved on
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[chrisaldrich]1 Perhaps of interest to the podcasters, audiophiles, and /media_fragment fans: I just ran across a clever little bit of user interface for the audio on Supreme court cases at https://www.oyez.org/cases/2021/19-1392 (click on the speaker icon on the left of the page to see it). When listening the UI has a row of all the judges pictured at the top and as the audio plays, the transcribed text auto advances with highlighting and the
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[chrisaldrich]1 image of the speaker highlights as well. Image: https://imgur.com/a/Z9JzDOz. #MicropubClientDreams
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[schmarty] oooh
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[snarfed] eb++ that's why I've never considered charging for Bridgy etc. for me personally, the income would never compensate for the added obligation and burden, not just support but development, maintenance, etc
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Loqi eb has 1 karma in this channel over the last year (2 in all channels)
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[snarfed] I'm glad we do have examples of paid IndieWeb businesses! eg micro.blog, which is hopefully sustainable. but it takes a ton of setup and commitment to make that work. in the more common case, when you have a side project and it feels like a burden, setting up payment model(s) usually makes it _more_ of a burden by default, not less
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scojjac /msg nickserv release scojjac
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scojjac I feel like I have to relearn IRC every time I use it
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scojjac Hello again, all. Been a minute.
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scojjac @eb You prob would have made as much or more selling your self-hosting guide as a download hahaha
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Loqi scojjac: lol
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petermolnar when did https://help.tumblr.com/hc/en-us/articles/4404702298519-Introducing-Tumblr-Post- happen?
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petermolnar tumblr suddenly realizing they could have been onlyfans
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petermolnar ok, so that was in last July: https://postplus.tumblr.com/post/657366541151698944/post-is-coming-soon
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scojjac_ @petermolnar yup, Engadget says 'introduced in July', moved to open beta in September 2021
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