#indieweb 2022-05-04

2022-05-04 UTC
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[timothy_chambe] Got this message of interest to the Twitter exchange that Matt Mullenweg, [KevinMarks] and myself had, when I posted it over at Indieweb.social too...
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[timothy_chambe] https://indieweb.social/web/@chaosexanima@tech.lgbt/108238735391899305
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Loqi [echo ✨] hi @tchambers @humanetech @cdevroe @django!! following up on this, i grabbed the official Tumblr Theme (which any user can access the markup of!) and threw it in a gist here: https://gist.github.com/ChaosExAnima/09e8b4611915888f7fe88b890b4f419aalso f...
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JBritS anyone want to do at least a temporary ad exchange with my site helpfullifesteps.com ? ad for you would go in top right corner picture gallery icon currently there
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[Chris_Lott] Are Talk pages disabled on indieweb.org for a particular reason? Just curious…I keep reflexively attempting to use them 🙂
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[chrisaldrich]1 [Chris_Lott]++ for finding chat. Welcome!
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Loqi [Chris_Lott] has 1 karma over the last year
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[chrisaldrich]1 Talk pages are disabled as most of the talk happens here in chat. The best pieces or synopses are usually then crystallized into the wiki from here.
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AshMcAllan[m] i think that's wise. having multiple places for discussion often fragments the discussion between what's natural and what feels official
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[tantek] [chrisaldrich]++ thank you, captured: https://indieweb.org/mediawiki-customization#Why_are_talk_pages_disabled thanks also to: AshMcAllan[m]++
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Loqi AshMcAllan[m] has 2 karma in this channel over the last year (3 in all channels)
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Loqi [chrisaldrich] has 14 karma in this channel over the last year (31 in all channels)
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AshMcAllan[m] maybe I don't bother implementing posse code in microblog.pub. maybe I just use bridgy.
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AshMcAllan[m] the thought being that I want to develop microblog.pub into something that can be installed and have full indieweb/fediverse functionality without needing anything else.
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AshMcAllan[m] but I'm not sure if posse to things like twitter falls under that goal I've set for myself
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AshMcAllan[m] i think I'll just set up bridgy for now so that I can focus on the webmention comment flow
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[tantek] ^ good call
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[tantek] focus on the features that matter to you the most, rather than swappable plumbing
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[tantek] also, gentle hint that "want to develop" is a good sign that it may be more appropriate of a topic for #indieweb-dev 🙂
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AshMcAllan[m] oh, yeah. I'm still not used to there being multiple channels
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[tantek] thanks!
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villasv Hi folks! I've been studying RelMeAuth and IndieAuth for a day or so but I'm having some trouble understanding the IndieAuth spec. In the Wiki, it says the Authorization Endpoint "is a page where applications can send users to and asking them to identify themselves". But the spec says "The client needs to discover the user's indieauth-metadata endpoint, which provides the location of the IndieAuth server's authorization endpoint". I'm
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villasv confused because I don't provide "indieauth-metadata" in my personal website yet I'm able to use IndieAuth as an user 🤔 Are these different "users"?
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villasv Or perhaps am confused about naming. Perhaps I'm actually not able to use IndieAuth the protocol, I'm able to use Web Sign-In thanks to RelMeAuth?
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Loqi hey villasv: that's a lot of dev jargon! authorization, endpoint, RelMeAuth, spec... can you move to #indieweb-dev?
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villasv Ah sure, sorry. Moving
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[tantek] Welcome villasv! That's our friendly bot Loqi 🙂 For protocols and specifications discussions we prefer to use the #indieweb-dev channel in particular to help this channel stay relatively free of jargon and be more welcoming to new users.
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[tantek] thanks much!
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villasv Good bot
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[tantek] gives Loqi a pat on the head.
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Loqi eyes the pat on the head.
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scojjac Can Slack still be used to access IndieWeb IRC? I tried a request through https://chat.indieweb.org/slack but no email comes (checked Spam, too)
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[fluffy] The gateway still exists and is working (for example, that’s how I’m connected) but it’s possible invites might not be coming through.
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[Murray] [scojjac]: I had the same issue recently; the invite never arrived, but when I went to the default Slack login it said I was already logged in, e.g. https://indieweb.slack.com/ and then select from the list. Might work for you too
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scojjac Thanks @murray and @fluffy ... unfortunately when I tried logging in there it says I don't have an account on the workspace.
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[snarfed] https://indiewebcamp.slack.com/ , missed the camp
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[fluffy] I’m always forgetting about the ‘camp’ too. Does anyone even know what indieweb.slack.com is for?
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[fluffy] like it clearly exists for someone
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[tonz] I’m connected through Slack
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[Scott_Jack] Ha! Didn't work for my personal domain but worked for a personal address that's connected to other Slack spaces
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[Scott_Jack] i.e. my iCloud email worked
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jacky valid options (and kinda how I do envision some of the vanguard of the IndieWeb looking at the IndieWeb) https://mastodon.social/@trwnh/108245549226889359
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jacky like if we had five more micro.blog like systems that inter-opted
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jacky we'd be golden imo
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Loqi [infinite love ⴳ] i think "everyone owns their own website" is a better model than "everyone signs up to someone else's service", politically speakinghowever i think "no one is forced to be admin" is a better social model than "everyone run their own website"and this ...
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jacky or three lol
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jacky five more is a lot
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jacky and not easy (tm)
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jacky it begins https://github.com/bluesky-social/adx
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jacky in relation to https://blueskyweb.xyz/blog/5-4-2022-working-in-public
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Loqi [bluesky-social] adx: Experiment in self-authenticating data structures for a federated social network
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[aciccarello] I could totally envision several micro.blog-like services with support for indieweb protocos that differentiate slightly by cost, design, community emphasis.
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[KevinMarks] I see that they are using DNS for ids in the stupidest way possible.
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[KevinMarks] OK, maybe second stupidest, they didn't use LRRD
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[Scott_Jack] The reality is there are even “techie” people that don’t want to futz with hosting, managing a cms, or anything of the stuff that commonly goes with owning your own website. I've kept my site on Tumblr at times and like that model. Buuut I don't have fuzzy feelings about Autommatic buying it out. It was probably better than any alternative suitors Verizon may have entertained
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[Scott_Jack] The big thing to avoid, though, is algorithmically feeding people stuff. That and the easy accessibility of social platforms is a disaster.
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