#indieweb 2022-05-23

2022-05-23 UTC
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[tantek] what is a paywall
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "paywall" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "paywall is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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IWDiscordGateway <capjamesg> [chrisaldrich] this post was written on pen and paper according to the last sentence: https://alongtheray.com/meanderings/short-musings-on-taking-an-extended-break-from-the-computer/
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[jgmac1106] happy Monday all
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[CrowderSoup] Happy Monday indeed 😊
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[tonz] I submitted a proposal to the Netherlands WordCamp to talk about IndieWeb there from the perspective of me as a WP blogger. Still considering to do something like a IW/Homebrew meet-up or even IndieWebCamp alongside it. Mid September.
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jacky nice!
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jacky [tonz]++
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Loqi [tonz] has 7 karma in this channel over the last year (11 in all channels)
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[tantek] ooh an NL IWC in September would be cool!
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jacky have anyone seen/used https://glass.photo?
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jacky what is glass
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "glass" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "glass is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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jacky looks like a photography silo similar to VSCO
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[tantek] I like this: "Blocking, reporting, and account deletion are day-one features."
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jacky yeahh
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[tantek] interesting and relatively brief: https://glass.photo/code-of-conduct
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[aciccarello] Makes me want to up the quality of my photos page
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[tantek] a black background makes your photos "pop", that alone would make many photos pages / photo grids look "higher quality"
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[jeremycherfas] Far prefer a neutral gray.
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jacky isn't grey neutral by default? or am I missing/mixing it up somehow
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[Scott_Jack] jacky: grays can be warm or cool
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jacky ahhh
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[Scott_Jack] It'd be nice to spruce up my photos page with a grid layout
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jacky big smae
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jacky *big same
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jacky that's way down my list of things to do
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[aciccarello] I have a grid layout for my photos page but the post view could use some cleanup. Right now it's based on my blog post layout https://www.ciccarello.me/photos/
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jacky oh this is sick (and prob will see more sites using this) https://github.com/Cveinnt/LiveTerm
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Loqi [Cveinnt] LiveTerm: 💻 Build terminal styled websites in minutes!
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AramZ-S[m] Oh cool
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[tantek] lolwut, that seems like a lot of (unnecessary) code for terminal styling
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[tantek] I mean, feel free to grab some CSS: https://tantek.com/log/2003/05.html
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aaronpk it's a little more than just styling :)
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[aciccarello] That's interesting. Also probably a little intimidating for the average user.
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[aciccarello] [jacky] I see someone suggested a MicroPub api for glass https://feedback.glass.photo/16
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jacky woaaaah
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[aciccarello] 33 votes!
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[KevinMarks] https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/1528572196322521088?t=MQeWpookURBNBqHfJ9fNtw&s=19
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@textfiles I was really rooting for you, Linktree. But, well, into the lake of fire, I'll be killing my account tomorrow. https://linktr.ee/blog/three-new-nft-features-to-build-your-web3-brand-and-community/ (twitter.com/_/status/1528572196322521088)
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[schmarty] The new hell of soft hexagons
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[tantek] linktree << Criticism: has fallen into the [[web3]]/[[NFT]] deep end: https://linktr.ee/blog/three-new-nft-features-to-build-your-web3-brand-and-community/
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Loqi ok, I added "Criticism: has fallen into the [[web3]]/[[NFT]] deep end: https://linktr.ee/blog/three-new-nft-features-to-build-your-web3-brand-and-community/" to the "See Also" section of /Linktree https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=81626&oldid=79751
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gRegor And the indieweb follow-up: https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/1528573715235078144
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@textfiles I'll probably replace it with an identity subsite on http://TEXTFILES.COM since.. you know (twitter.com/_/status/1528573715235078144)
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[Scott_Jack] I do love me a hexagon [schmarty]
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[tantek] is the rounded hexagon thing a reference to the rounded corners of early "web 2.0" aesthetics?
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[tantek] scojjac, here you go, hexagons (view source for how small that page is) http://tantek.com/CSS/Examples/bathroomtiles.html
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[Scott_Jack] tantek, the rounded hexagon is part of linktree's design language around web3/NFT
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Loqi hey [tantek], [Scott_Jack]: can you move the tech talk (web 2, web 2.0, web3) to #indieweb-dev to keep this channel more inclusive and inviting?
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[tantek] lol
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[Scott_Jack] I'd rather pretend web3 doesn't exist
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[Scott_Jack] that's pretty neat, thanks
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AramZ-S[m] For LinkTree replacements I like Glitch's alternative https://glitch.com/glitch-in-bio
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[tantek] I don't because a list of links shouldn't be empty without JS
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AramZ-S[m] I agree, tho if you want a quick no-code option that can be extended Glitch's is what I suggest, but around here, there's prob much better versions you can make, I created a links & identity page that leveraged Schema dot org identity properties to help unify my ID across multiple sites, though I still have a lot more I can do with it - https://aramzs.github.io/aramzs/
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[tantek] It amazes me how much time people spend on how much JS to avoid writing a few <ul> <li> <a href> tags
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[fluffy] not to mention reinventing <select> and <input type=“submit”> the long way around
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[fluffy] (usually badly and with worse accessibility)
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[tantek] 💯 and -> #indieweb-dev/rant 😂 😭
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[tantek] (to be clear, I'm saying that as much about my own tags comment)
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AramZ-S[m] :D
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[chrisaldrich] AramZ-S I always thought that the simple overlay of links to your socials on your photo at https://aramzuckerscharff.com/ was a pretty cool way to go...
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[chrisaldrich] For those thinking about /comments, replies, and moderation this was interesting: https://www.niemanlab.org/2022/05/reader-comments-on-news-sites-we-want-to-hear-what-your-publication-does/ If journalistic outlets' sites can solve the problem at a scale slightly larger than the personal site, then perhaps it's a path we might also follow. I can't wait to see what their follow up article looks like.
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[tantek] uh, [chrisaldrich] wasn't there an org of various journalism sites etc. that tried to "solve comments for news publications" (and eventually evaporated?)
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[chrisaldrich] I'm sure there were probably many... based on the popularity of the Nieman Labs' earlier article, it's obviously a thorn in side of many sites....
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[chrisaldrich] (we all know it's also a hard problem, so I'm not holding my breath here—sometimes I turn blue and fall off my chair. But it's nice to see that they haven't given up and are still thinking about and potentially experimenting with solutions.)