#indieweb 2022-05-23

2022-05-23 UTC
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[tantek]
what is a paywall
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "paywall" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "paywall is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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IWDiscordGateway
<capjamesg> [chrisaldrich] this post was written on pen and paper according to the last sentence: https://alongtheray.com/meanderings/short-musings-on-taking-an-extended-break-from-the-computer/
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[jgmac1106]
happy Monday all
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[CrowderSoup]
Happy Monday indeed 😊
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[tonz]
I submitted a proposal to the Netherlands WordCamp to talk about IndieWeb there from the perspective of me as a WP blogger. Still considering to do something like a IW/Homebrew meet-up or even IndieWebCamp alongside it. Mid September.
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jacky
nice!
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jacky
[tonz]++
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Loqi
[tonz] has 7 karma in this channel over the last year (11 in all channels)
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[tantek]
ooh an NL IWC in September would be cool!
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jacky
have anyone seen/used https://glass.photo?
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jacky
what is glass
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "glass" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "glass is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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jacky
looks like a photography silo similar to VSCO
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[tantek]
I like this: "Blocking, reporting, and account deletion are day-one features."
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jacky
yeahh
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[tantek]
interesting and relatively brief: https://glass.photo/code-of-conduct
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[aciccarello]
Makes me want to up the quality of my photos page
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[tantek]
a black background makes your photos "pop", that alone would make many photos pages / photo grids look "higher quality"
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[jeremycherfas]
Far prefer a neutral gray.
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jacky
isn't grey neutral by default? or am I missing/mixing it up somehow
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[Scott_Jack]
jacky: grays can be warm or cool
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[Scott_Jack]
It'd be nice to spruce up my photos page with a grid layout
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jacky
big smae
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jacky
*big same
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jacky
that's way down my list of things to do
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[aciccarello]
I have a grid layout for my photos page but the post view could use some cleanup. Right now it's based on my blog post layout https://www.ciccarello.me/photos/
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jacky
oh this is sick (and prob will see more sites using this) https://github.com/Cveinnt/LiveTerm
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Loqi
[Cveinnt] LiveTerm: 💻 Build terminal styled websites in minutes!
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AramZ-S[m]
Oh cool
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[tantek]
lolwut, that seems like a lot of (unnecessary) code for terminal styling
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[tantek]
I mean, feel free to grab some CSS: https://tantek.com/log/2003/05.html
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aaronpk
it's a little more than just styling :)
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[aciccarello]
That's interesting. Also probably a little intimidating for the average user.
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[aciccarello]
[jacky] I see someone suggested a MicroPub api for glass https://feedback.glass.photo/16
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jacky
woaaaah
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@textfiles
I was really rooting for you, Linktree. But, well, into the lake of fire, I'll be killing my account tomorrow. https://linktr.ee/blog/three-new-nft-features-to-build-your-web3-brand-and-community/
(twitter.com/_/status/1528572196322521088)
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[schmarty]
The new hell of soft hexagons
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@textfiles
I'll probably replace it with an identity subsite on http://TEXTFILES.COM since.. you know
(twitter.com/_/status/1528573715235078144)
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[Scott_Jack]
I do love me a hexagon [schmarty]
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[tantek]
is the rounded hexagon thing a reference to the rounded corners of early "web 2.0" aesthetics?
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[tantek]
scojjac, here you go, hexagons (view source for how small that page is) http://tantek.com/CSS/Examples/bathroomtiles.html
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[Scott_Jack]
tantek, the rounded hexagon is part of linktree's design language around web3/NFT
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Loqi
hey [tantek], [Scott_Jack]: can you move the tech talk (web 2, web 2.0, web3) to #indieweb-dev to keep this channel more inclusive and inviting?
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[Scott_Jack]
I'd rather pretend web3 doesn't exist
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[Scott_Jack]
that's pretty neat, thanks
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AramZ-S[m]
For LinkTree replacements I like Glitch's alternative https://glitch.com/glitch-in-bio
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[tantek]
I don't because a list of links shouldn't be empty without JS
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AramZ-S[m]
I agree, tho if you want a quick no-code option that can be extended Glitch's is what I suggest, but around here, there's prob much better versions you can make, I created a links & identity page that leveraged Schema dot org identity properties to help unify my ID across multiple sites, though I still have a lot more I can do with it - https://aramzs.github.io/aramzs/
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[tantek]
It amazes me how much time people spend on how much JS to avoid writing a few <ul> <li> <a href> tags
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[fluffy]
not to mention reinventing <select> and <input type=“submit”> the long way around
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[fluffy]
(usually badly and with worse accessibility)
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[tantek]
💯 and -> #indieweb-dev/rant 😂 😭
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[tantek]
(to be clear, I'm saying that as much about my own tags comment)
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AramZ-S[m]
:D
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[chrisaldrich]
AramZ-S I always thought that the simple overlay of links to your socials on your photo at https://aramzuckerscharff.com/ was a pretty cool way to go...
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[chrisaldrich]
For those thinking about /comments, replies, and moderation this was interesting: https://www.niemanlab.org/2022/05/reader-comments-on-news-sites-we-want-to-hear-what-your-publication-does/ If journalistic outlets' sites can solve the problem at a scale slightly larger than the personal site, then perhaps it's a path we might also follow. I can't wait to see what their follow up article looks like.
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[tantek]
uh, [chrisaldrich] wasn't there an org of various journalism sites etc. that tried to "solve comments for news publications" (and eventually evaporated?)
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[chrisaldrich]
I'm sure there were probably many... based on the popularity of the Nieman Labs' earlier article, it's obviously a thorn in side of many sites....
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[chrisaldrich]
(we all know it's also a hard problem, so I'm not holding my breath here—sometimes I turn blue and fall off my chair. But it's nice to see that they haven't given up and are still thinking about and potentially experimenting with solutions.)