#indieweb 2022-06-02

2022-06-02 UTC
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Hollie The events page doesn't have a link for tonight's chat, am I looking in the wrong spot?
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gRegor HWC meetup tonight might start a few minutes late, sorry. https://events.indieweb.org/2022/06/guiding-compass-homebrew-website-club-yxytuwTQwgxj
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gRegor Will post again once the Zoom has started
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Hollie Oh! Sorry I thought "Guiding Compass" referred to something else, I was looking for the word "Pacific". Thanks!
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Hollie It's fine I need to make some tea and edit my list of all the questions I have, lol.
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gRegor No worries, hollie. It's a newer meetup format. It's similar to HWC, but focused more on community goals than personal sites. :)
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gRegor This will actually be my first one attending, if we can get Zoom to work XD
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GWG Heavy thunderstorms here, heading to my computer...
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GWG Neither rain nor sleet nor snow not dark of night
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gRegor Nor, hopefully, 2FA :)
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gRegor We're live now, using Google Meet: https://events.indieweb.org/2022/06/guiding-compass-homebrew-website-club-yxytuwTQwgxj
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Loqi LIVE NOW: Guiding Compass Homebrew Website Club
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gRegor What is IndieWeb Publisher
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Loqi IndieWeb Publisher is an open source fork of the responsive Independent Publisher theme for WordPress that streamlines its code and adds some additional IndieWeb friendly functionality to the original semantic theme https://indieweb.org/IndieWeb_Publisher
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parjanya hey :) it’s my first time here. what should I read first?
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inertia hello
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GWG parjanya: What do you want to learn?
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parjanya GWG: hi! hmm... what’s the plan, exactly, if it’s just one; I have my website... how to add it to the webring? I remember reading about it, but not about how it works
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parjanya nice to see etherpad still lives :)
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gRegor Welcome, parjanya!
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gRegor What is indieweb webring
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Loqi Indiewebring is part of the great rebirth of of webrings powered by #IndieWeb technology that made 2018 the year of the webring and not the year of the microsub reader https://indieweb.org/indieweb_webring
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gRegor Is that webring you mean or a more specific one? They each might have different ways to join them.
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gRegor And welcome, inertia o/
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[tantek] what is getting started?
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Loqi Get started on the indieweb by connecting with the indiewebcamp community, getting a personal domain, a place for your content, and setting up your home page and other indieweb essentials https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started
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gRegor What is IW26?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "IW26" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "IW26 is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] Next time a restaurant asks you to install an app instead of using their website: https://www.cp24.com/mobile/news/tim-hortons-app-collected-vast-amounts-of-sensitive-data-privacy-watchdogs-1.5927281
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[tw2113_Slack_] a major company collects data on you, wait till you hear that water is wet
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[aciccarello] I got mad at Yelp yesterday because on mobile it tried to get me to install the app whenever I tried to read the rest of a truncated review.
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[tantek] ^ that's what I'm talking about
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[aciccarello] It was worse than Reddit's annoying install popup!
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[Scott_Jack] Oh yeah with Yelp you can't do squat without the mobile app
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[Scott_Jack] Even Apple Maps redirects you to the Yelp app
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[tw2113_Slack_] welp…i won’t use yelp
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[tw2113_Slack_] not that i did in the first place
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[Scott_Jack] Apollo app for Reddit is great if you're on iOS
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[Scott_Jack] It's really well done by an indie dev
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[aciccarello] Yelp let me read when I had chrome request the desktop app. :success-kid:
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jacky looks like /Reading.am is shuttng down https://twitter.com/reading/status/1532360247779676161
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@reading I’m sunsetting http://Reading.am at the end of this month. Thanks to everyone who participated—I really enjoyed building things with and for you. Data exports are available and I’ll be around for support and questions. —@leppert https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUQJhgDWQAAf7z5.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1532360247779676161)
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jacky /Reading.am << Announced site shutdown on 2022-06-30 via [[Twitter]] https://twitter.com/reading/status/1532360247779676161
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@reading I’m sunsetting http://Reading.am at the end of this month. Thanks to everyone who participated—I really enjoyed building things with and for you. Data exports are available and I’ll be around for support and questions. —@leppert https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUQJhgDWQAAf7z5.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1532360247779676161)
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Loqi ok, I added "Announced site shutdown on 2022-06-30 via [[Twitter]] https://twitter.com/reading/status/1532360247779676161" to the "See Also" section of /Reading.am https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=81783&oldid=56928
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[tantek] maybe add to /site-deaths?
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[aciccarello] what is reading.am
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/Reading.am
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[tantek] what is reading.am
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Loqi Reading.am is a silo with bookmark functionality for read posts about content on the web, primarily geared toward indicating "what you are reading right now." https://indieweb.org/Reading.am
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[chrisaldrich] Ha. I just came to add reading.am to site deaths... I'm pretty bummed because it was a simple/easy/extensible and low friction way to add reads/listens/watches to my site.
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jacky ah yeah good point
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[chrisaldrich] Added to site deaths...
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[chrisaldrich] Reading.am << https://twitter.com/reading/status/494551445291532288
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Loqi ok, I added "https://twitter.com/reading/status/494551445291532288" to the "See Also" section of /Reading.am https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=81786&oldid=81784
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[chrisaldrich] Reading.am may be the first silo service I've used that I owned all of my data from day one so I'm not worried about data export on the day of shut down.
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[chrisaldrich] I do however now need to replace the easy PESOS functionality I was getting for reads, listens, and watches.
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[tantek] in that way, it's kind of like having one specific client-app shutdown — your server/data is still safe, in your hands
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[tantek] ^ why PESOS is still better than siloing
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[chrisaldrich] I'll note that the service did have some minimal social functionality and occasional notifications that I may miss, but I think that by far, I had much more interaction with the posts on my site directly than I had on the social part of their bookmarking service.
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[tantek] ownyourdata << What not to do as a company if you support users owning their data: https://twitter.com/sebmck/status/1531740565615910912
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@sebmck "You should own your data." Like my address. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUHVre_X0AQNMfN.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1531740565615910912)
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Loqi ok, I added "What not to do as a company if you support users owning their data: https://twitter.com/sebmck/status/1531740565615910912" to the "See Also" section of /own_your_data https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=81788&oldid=81660
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[tantek] ^ thread
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aaronpk Lol yikes
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IWDiscordGateway <sunset> yknow with the whole "brave's ceo is a homophobe and also their 'software' being *like that*" situation, you would think they wouldnt pull stunts like that one :P
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