#indieweb 2022-09-29

2022-09-29 UTC
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cambridgeport90
It would appear that some folks would make a stink on Mastodon about how this server keeps public logs of public chats; stating that it does not comply with GDPR if people are not able to erase their data or see it... but how does that law even apply if this chat server is public anyway? As technologists, not lawyers, gods... do we seriously have to worry about this crap, too?
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aaronpk
which server? because this chat is distributed all over the place 😂 IRC, Slack, Matrix, Discord, GitHub for archives
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aaronpk
also a lot of people's own chat clients store archives on their own machines
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capjamesg
Do you have an example cambridgeport90?
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[snarfed]1
more comprehensively no, most indieweb services don't need to worry about GDPR, and yes, if the data is public, that's one reason (among others). https://indieweb.org/GDPR , https://brid.gy/about#gdpr
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[snarfed]1
also importantly, GDPR doesn't necessarily require self serve software tool(s) for exporting data, deleting it, etc. compliance can be fully manual.
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[tantek]4
Do we have a page somewhere about fake accounts or especially the problem of accounts that impersonate someone online? I feel like this is worth considering as a potential IndieWeb advantage over silos: https://www.darkreading.com/edge-articles/fake-accounts-are-not-your-friends-
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capjamesg
What is a bookmarklet?
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Loqi
A bookmarklet is a web browser bookmark that runs javascript commands on the current page; indieweb bookmarklets are often useful for responding to the current page https://indieweb.org/bookmarklet
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capjamesg
bookmarklet << A bookmarklet used to provide an edit button on a static web page:
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Loqi
ok, I added "A bookmarklet used to provide an edit button on a static web page:" to the "See Also" section of /bookmarklet https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=83582&oldid=76644
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capjamesg
I forgot the link.
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[aciccarello]
That's a cool idea for a hidden interface. I'd probably just add it as a hidden button on my page. I already have a "View on GitHub" link in my footer.
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hollie
Where's a good place to ask a site design question?
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barnaby
here, if it’s user-facing! or in #indieweb-dev if it’s more about software design
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capjamesg
Indeed!
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capjamesg
How can we help?
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hollie
Cool! Thanks. It'd be here, then. I should preface this with saying that my knowledge on coding is basic HTML and very basic CSS, and that's it.
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hollie
So the question is: I've used WordPress in the past, and I'm using Microblog at the moment, but I'm still trying to figure out how to build what I want.
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hollie
One thing I'd like is to be able to have a page where all the subject lines of posts of a particular Category or Tag are listed.
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hollie
So many blogs will have an "archive" page or a list of tags, and you click a tag or category, and it goes to a page that shows all the posts in order - but the full posts. Which means I can't easily scan through the subjects to look for something.
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hollie
I'd like to have a site where I could, say, write about a lot of different things, but if someone clicked on the Knitting page, they woud see a page with a list of subject lines for posts that were about Knitting. Not the posts themselves. Does this make sense?
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barnaby
I imagine that’s fairly easy to do on wordpress, although I don’t know how to do it off the top of my head as I don’t work with WP much
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barnaby
but there are plenty of wordpress experts here who can probably help
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barnaby
no idea if it’s possible on micro.blog
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hollie
I would have thought so too, but when I asked in a recent WordPress training group they seemed confused. Like why would I want this? And the answer was about building a new page with all these blocks, and I'm just allergic to the whole block thing on WP right now.
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hollie
It seemed like there should be an easy to way to code so that a page knows, "Bring me a list of every subject line in the Knitting category". But then I don't know code, so...
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hollie
I've been using Obsidian lately and I wish I could build a website that was basiclly functionally like an Obsidian vault.
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capjamesg
I don't know much about Obsidian but I wonder if there is already a tool for that.
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jacky
I've been considering syncing my notes from Obsidian to be on my site somehow
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capjamesg
Oh wow. That's pricey.
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jacky
make sense that it's paid being that it's their way of supporting themselves
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barnaby
oof, $192 per year is rough if you’re used to cheap shared hosting
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jacky
indeed
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hollie
Yeah I knew about Obsidian Publish but I don't want to pay for it. :)
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barnaby
but if obsidian is just a nice interface over a load of markdown files, it’s probably possible to throw some of them into a static site generator and get a usable result
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capjamesg
hollie "Bring me a list of every subject line in the Knitting category" - did you mean on WordPress?
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capjamesg
barnaby I'd say so. Obsidian definitely allows access to local markdown files.
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hollie
I want to support Osidian and I definitely don't mind paying for things, but in the long term that isn't a sustainable yearly cost for me, I'd like to be able to build somethig similar on my own.
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jacky
I'd test this on a local instance of wordpress but https://github.com/devbean/obsidian-wordpress
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capjamesg
Taggin GWG and [ChrisAldrich]
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jacky
barnaby: it's also the graph you build across these files
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capjamesg
*Tagging
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Loqi
[devbean] obsidian-wordpress: An obsidian plugin for publishing docs to WordPress.
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hollie
Yep - capjamesg I meant on WordPress, but also was asking if it was an ability that other systems had, like Hugo or something.
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hollie
jacky - Oh I will look at that! But I'm still a newb with all this so I'm not sure I know how to get it started. :)
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hollie
Also - another topic - I notice when I click on my name here it goes to my old (broken/gone) site. How do I make my name here go to my current site?
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jacky
I think you'd have to update the link in the /chat-names list
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barnaby
it looks like there are plenty of 3rd party methods for turning obsidian vaults into a folder full of HTML and CSS you can throw up on any shared hosting https://forum.obsidian.md/t/static-site-generators-any-guides/8915/5
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[snarfed]1
hollie: archive page with only titles is definitely possible on WordPress, eg https://snarfed.org/archive
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Loqi
[Ryan Barrett] Archives
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hollie
Oh thanks!
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hollie
Oh sorry that was thanks to jacky but also thanks for the WP and Obsidian help too! :)
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GWG
hollie: Custom template in your theme for a category or tag.
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GWG
You can say, render this thing differently
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Loqi
friendly reminder GWG, it seems like this conversation is more appropriate for #indieweb-dev (template, render)
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GWG
Actually, Loqi, move to the WordPress room
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GWG
I cannot help who spoke the sacred words
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hollie
I really want to learn how to just build my own WP theme. I know exactly what I want, I just can't find any theme that does it, so then I think, why not build my own? But then I look at how much there is to know and I get intimidated.
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hollie
But the community here seems pretty amazing so maybe I should just go for it and then come here with my questions. Hopefully not on a too-annoying basis!
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GWG
hollie: I can help you with simple stuff
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hollie
That would be great, thank you!
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jacky
posted some notes in #indieweb-wordpress
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[KevinMarks]
The other thing that could work with a straightforward theme would be to use <details><summary> to make the titles expand the post inline,
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hollie
When you say "straightforward theme" are you meaning WordPress?
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GWG
Yes
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[KevinMarks]
View source on that to see the basic idea
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hollie
Thank you! I'll save this, yeah this is basically what I want the page to do.
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