#indieweb 2022-10-17

2022-10-17 UTC
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j12t Anybody going to IIW in a few weeks? https://internetidentityworkshop.com/
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[tantek] a wild j12t appears!
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[tantek] j12t, is it still dominated by rainforest burning tech to prop-up ponzi tokens?
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j12t I sometimes pop out of the woodwork :-)
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j12t Usually with the intent to have constructive conversations.
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[tantek] 👍
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jacky it looks interesting
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jacky hope they have a remote option
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gRegor what is IIW
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Loqi The Internet Identity Workshop is a workshop held twice a year that focuses on identity issues where several IndieWeb related sessions have been held over the years https://indieweb.org/IIW
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gRegor Don't see remote options on the eventbrite registration :/
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gRegor Pricy too, dang. $300 for one day.
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aaronpk they went all-remote for a few of them, but are back to in person now
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GWG I need someone to subsidize my identity hobbies.
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[tantek] Twitter replies are increasingly becoming off-topic useless noise or spam.
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[tantek] not a single actual legitimate reply to this: https://twitter.com/t/status/1573931596809646080
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@t W3C TPAC 2022 Sustainability Community Group Meeting: https://tantek.com/b/5Lz1 (twitter.com/_/status/1573931596809646080)
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[tantek] Twitter shows "12 💬", two of those being Quote Tweets supposedly, but then when you click through it's empty
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[Jamie_Tanna] tantek those disappearing quotes will be private accounts, or you're blocked from seeing their posts
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aaronpk Or responses that have been flagged as inappropriate
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jacky it's confusing becuase if you know the total amount to show, why show instead the _total_ amount of engagements when all of it isn't usable?
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jacky maybe more useful from within the analytics/marketing view
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aaronpk I think they might not know
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IWDiscordGateway <jacky> hmmm
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aaronpk because the responses to show depend somewhat on who is looking, and it's cheaper to store only one total responses count and only do the more expensive lookup if you actually click into it
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[schmarty] yeah that's classic caching issues.
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jacky hmm
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jacky https://chriscoyier.net/2022/10/17/the-proprietary-syndication-formats/
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[schmarty] great news about FB Instant Articles! 🎉
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capjamesg "Guess which format is going to outlast all these proprietary syndication formats. I’d say RSS, which I believe to be true, but really, it’s HTML. "
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[tw2113_Slack_] removing that would break podcasting
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gRegor I didn't know that about AMP "using the AMP format is no longer required... to appear in the Top Stories carousel"
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gRegor great news all around
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[KevinMarks] Amp was html, mostly. With a few weird components.
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[tantek] AMP--
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Loqi AMP has -1 karma over the last year
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[tantek] also let's take the format talk to #indieweb-dev plz
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capjamesg AMP--
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Loqi AMP has -2 karma over the last year
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gRegor [tantek], interesting difference on the UI of that tweet you linked. I see "7 retweets, 2 quote tweets, 9 likes" There's one reply under that's hidden by default, because it appears to just be spam. UI: "Show additional replies, including those that may contain offensive content"
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gRegor The 2 quote tweets link did work initially, but now it's not showing anything. odd.
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gRegor In a tab I'm not logged in on, I do see a couple more replies. Odd.
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gRegor But can't view the QT link when not logged in.
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[tantek] if you get the tweet permalinks of the quote tweets to show up again, can you drop them into #indieweb-chat?
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gRegor Sure
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jacky re: google reader and demotivation
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jacky I think that there's services like that that when they go, nothing can really fill the void the same way it did universally
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jacky same for things like lanyrd
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jacky and maybe Path
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aaronpk and dopplr
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jacky what is dopplr
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Loqi Dopplr was a silo (at dopplr.com) for sharing future travel plans https://indieweb.org/Dopplr
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jacky ugh yeah I would love this
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jacky I barely get close with Kayak's functionality
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jacky yeah so barely
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jacky dopplr looks amazing
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jacky like this https://web.archive.org/web/20131029191022/https://www.dopplr.com/place/gb/oxford is the kind of info I'd want if I was going somewhere (in terms of a community FAQ versus some opaque agency)
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jacky a better page https://web.archive.org/web/20131012075647/https://www.dopplr.com/place/us/ny/new-york
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[jgarber] aww dopplr miss you 😭
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