[timothy_chambe]↩️ [tantek] I’m happy to add back anyone here if I accidentally removed someone from the Indieweb instance in error - just need their name. In slack app here it’s hard to tell
[timothy_chambe]↩️ OK great, found the account and it's reinstated. Have been personally onboarding 200 to 300 new users per day and dealing with dozens of reports, I don't recall the exact issue that other users reported, but cambridgeport90 is back on Indieweb.social and fully, happily welcome. ✊
[timothy_chambe]↩️ I'd be happy to offer the indieweb social instance just for that purpose and to find any ways to include content there that walked folks thru that process of POSSE notes to it...👍
claudia1hello hello! Question for all you fine folk- just set up my new website on wordpress. I am having an issue with micropub on my end (and critical errors whenever I make a post- the post POSTS but it always triggers a critical error on publishing it). Anything you all would recommend? Followed the wiki guide for wordpress and am using autonomie
[KevinMarks]I think the 740 and 960 breakpoints were meant to catch an iPad in portrait and landscape originally by lazy designers who didn't want to do proper fluid layout.
DhalucarioI am trying to authenticate using my PGP key on https://indieauth.com. I keep getting the following error: "There was an error verifying the signature. Please try again."
mro, Nuve, barnaby, chimo, [aaronpk], tbeseda[m], [pfefferle] and [iambismark] joined the channel
[timothy_chambe]Hey everyone: this is very much an early "apha" effort on the indieweb.social mastodon instance I admin... and it is specifically marked as unofficial, and I have not promoted it yet. Wanted to show it here. And if folks like it happy to promote it around there. Also if if folks dislike it, or something more official like this is built, happy to take this down.
barnabyI remember seeing something similar in my facebook archive from years ago. If you dug around enough you could get lists of the terms they used to assign targeted ads to you
barnabyoff the top of my head the only use I can think of for such URLs would be for manually checking that they’re not broken, which you can only currently do if you’re logged into the relevant instance, where you probably follow yourself anyway
barnabythis is straying into dev territory, but do mastodon/similar ever fetch posts from URLs directly, or are they always transmitted via pushed AP activities to inboxes?
barnabyI could imagine imitating the “interact/follow on your instance” webaction UI pattern for this, e.g. having a “view on mastodon” field where you type in your server and it redirects you to the relevant mirror URL
barnabyand if the goal is to enable direct interactions and we need to build somethign to make it happen, then IMO it’d be better to just skip straight to having web actions in-place for reply, like etc
aaronpkthere is no syndication happening with the fediverse because if you see my post in your mastodon account the timestamp in mastodon already links to my post on my website
[snarfed]if a reader comes straight to one of your original posts, they see the twitter synd link icon and know they can go see/interact with the syndicated tweet
[snarfed]there's no corresponding fediverse/Mastodon synd link icon, so they don't know they can go see/interact with the federated post inside Mastodon or wherever
[snarfed]anyway, sorry to push, obviously you can do whatever on your site! I don't intend this to be specifically about your site. just a good example
barnabyso the goal is to enable users to interact with non-mastodon posts from their fediverse server, then it’s up to them/their server to have a UI for interacting with arbitrary outside content
[snarfed]well this is the remote follow/login/interact form that Mastodon etc do have, where you type in your instance, and then it does the webaction style thing
barnabywhen someone searches for a post on mastodon, what does it do? will it try to fetch the URL with conneg for JSON-LD and provide the user with an interactible post if it finds something?
barnaby[snarfed]: so one thing bridgy fed could potentially do then is to offer, say, a URL which parses mf2 and turns it into whatever format mastodon is looking for, and allow publishers to redirect to that URL if the request has conneg headers in
sknebelnow it gives you a modal that basically says "log in if this is your instance, otherwise copy the url to the post from here and paste it into the search bar on your instance"
Loqi[Chris Trottier] Why Big Social is so *evil*: each network is devoted to building a Frankenstein version of yourself.This Frankenstein has most of your atributes: a face, romantic history, shopping preferences, etc.. Everything that Big Social can find out, catalogue...
[tantek]snarfed, I know you said "syndication" but it sounds like you’re trying to solve a UX problem. "fediverse post viewer" sounds like what you are actually asking for is "all the ways a logged in fediverse viewer (person) can interact with a post on the fediverse" which yes sounds like webactions
[tantek]note my posts essentially have a proof of concept of this, but with Twitter. If you're logged into the Twitter, you can use the like, repost, reply buttons on my tweets to directly interact with them via your Twitter account.
[snarfed][tantek] right! UX problem, we want the equivalent for fediverse accounts. and yes, similar to webactions because the target site doesn't know your site or fediverse instance
barnabyI guess I can backfill the other ~3000 likes I couldn’t get before now, provided the API stays up long enough for me to make a new archiving script
[tantek]I believe such actions must not be hardcoded for Mastodon, or ActivityPub, or Twitter for that matter, and instead should be based on an open standard that any of them could implement
[timothy_chambe] ↩️ [tantek] I’m happy to add back anyone here if I accidentally removed someone from the Indieweb instance in error - just need their name. In slack app here it’s hard to tell
Loqi [indienews] New post: "How I Book Blog" https://b-ark.ca/2021/08/07/how-i-book-blog.html
[KevinMarks] I think the 740 and 960 breakpoints were meant to catch an iPad in portrait and landscape originally by lazy designers who didn't want to do proper fluid layout.
jeremycherfas Hello claudia1 You may get more assistance in the #indieweb-wordpress channel
aaronpk i backfilled the data from socialblade https://socialblade.com/twitter/user/aaronpk/monthly
[tantek] snarfed, I know you said "syndication" but it sounds like you’re trying to solve a UX problem. "fediverse post viewer" sounds like what you are actually asking for is "all the ways a logged in fediverse viewer (person) can interact with a post on the fediverse" which yes sounds like webactions