#indieweb 2022-12-14

2022-12-14 UTC
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GWG I have a checkin problem with airports
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GWG Do you check-in to the flight, the gate, terminal or airport
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aaronpk i don't check in to moving targets like planes and buses, because i post those as trips instead
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aaronpk but i do check in to airports, terminals and gates
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GWG aaronpk: Doesn't that get confusing?
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aaronpk not really
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GWG I'm wondering if I should link them somehow
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aaronpk that would be neat
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GWG I don't have trips quite done yet
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GWG I have the option to give a venue a parent I suppose
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aaronpk i am very pleased that when i am on a flight, any post i make on my site shows up as tagged with the flight post
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GWG aaronpk: How do you pull that off?
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GWG The logic I mean
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aaronpk my site knows my flight schedule, so "if a post is created and there is currently an active flight, use the flight post as the location"
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GWG Figured
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GWG I did a lot over the last few months with location... I feel like other than tweaks I should work on something else for a while.
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GWG But maybe I should store data
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GWG How do you store data in preparation for an idea you might never get to?
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aaronpk usually storing the raw data is the most effective, even if it is the least efficient
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GWG aaronpk: Have to decide how to store flight data... right now I just store the email confirmation
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[tantek] GWG re: "check-in to the flight, the gate, terminal or airport" <-- yes
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GWG [tantek]: When I imported all old venues, it created some messiness I need to clean up manually
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GWG Like this..https://david.shanske.com/venue/aer-lingus-flight-ei109/
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Loqi [preview] [David Shanske] https://david.shanske.com/venue/aer-lingus-flight-ei109/
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GWG Because I imported from Swarm, ei109 has geo coordinates in Ireland
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GWG Whereas for everything else I feel I need to go through and add a blurb..https://david.shanske.com/venue/holiday-inn-berlin-city-east-side/
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Loqi [preview] [David Shanske] https://david.shanske.com/venue/holiday-inn-berlin-city-east-side/
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[KevinMarks] Interesting https://www.getrevue.co/profile/jackjack/issues/a-native-internet-protocol-for-social-media-1503112
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Xin Hello everyone, we are a small team of three, been working on this native macOS app for building and hosting decentralized websites: https://planetable.xyz
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Xin For example, this weblog is built with the app and hosted on this Mac I am currently typing on: https://planetable.eth.limo/
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Xin From a tech stack perspective, it's IPFS + ENS, it does not require a cloud or a remote server.
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[KevinMarks] You are bridging it out to the https web, presumably that uses a server or is that a DNS bridge?
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Xin https://eth.limo is a project for bringing content on IPFS to https web.
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Xin If a browser/client has native support for IPFS+ENS, then it's possible to just enter this to the browser address bar:
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Loqi hey Xin: we try to keep jargon (IPFS) out of this channel to make it more inviting to newcomers, can you move this to #indieweb-dev?
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Xin ipns://planetable.eth
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Xin Loqi, sorry!
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petermolnar Loqi is our bot who reacts to certain things, so don't worry, Loqi is not offended :)
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petermolnar who is Loqi?
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Loqi Loqi is a friendly and useful bot/digital therapist present in the IndieWeb discussion channels https://indieweb.org/User:Loqi.me
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petermolnar anyway, the idea of building websites on top of IPFS is not too new, may I ask if you also support indieweb features with it, such as webmentions? If so, how? Because if one updates the document in ipfs, the hash address changes, so keeping a conversation up would be interesting.
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Xin Yes, IPFS CID is mutable, it is just a hash. So we publish websites to IPNS, which is not mutable. Then it can be linked to ENS.
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Loqi hey petermolnar, Xin, can you move the tech talk (IPFS) to #indieweb-dev to keep this channel more inclusive and inviting?
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Xin Overall, every single piece in this stack, is not controlled by a corporate. It's 100% P2P.
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Xin Ok Loqi, I will move to #dev for sure.
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aaronpk time to add some new emoji avatars using this batch of AI avatars I have now :)
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aaronpk going through my list of emoji i use that are missing emoji photos, I feel like I need to do another photo shoot!
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GWG aaronpk: I feel like I want to suggest something wild there
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GWG Maybe a friend's edition?
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> A quick reminder that HWC London / Europe is coming up this evening: https://events.indieweb.org/2022/12/homebrew-website-club-europe-london-QA2Ko5KyaaY9
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[jacky] might appear for this
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[snarfed]2 we (eg [tantek]) have discussed the pattern of syndicating full content of notes to Twitter/Mastodon, but only title and link for articles, eg https://fed.brid.gy/docs#which-parts
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[snarfed]2 I hadn't quite realized that Mastodon itself independently came to the same conclusion: when BF sends an AS2 Note to Mastodon, it shows the full contents, but when it sends an AS2 Article, Mastodon only shows the name
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[snarfed]2 (well, name and link)
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[tantek] that's great [snarfed], do we have this guidance captured in /POSSE already?
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[snarfed]2 good q!
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[aciccarello] I'm hoping to attend the pacific event tonight
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GWG Me too
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GWG I'm working today, shame no HWC Europe next week
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[marksuth] I could be up for doing an extra HWC Europe next wednesday
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> [marksuth]++ for hosting HWC London / Europe today!
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capjamesg [marksuth]++ for hosting HWC London / Europe today!
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Loqi [marksuth] has 4 karma in this channel over the last year (13 in all channels)
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capjamesg [marksuth]++ for hosting HWC London / Europe today!
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capjamesg Apologies for any audio issues in today's call. I am looking forward to getting my internet set up tomorrow.
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[chrisaldrich] What is year in review?
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Loqi Year in Review is a feature on some silos (like Facebook) as well as being a special kind of article on some IndieWeb sites that summarizes important aspects of the past year https://indieweb.org/year_in_review
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[chrisaldrich] year in review << https://fandom.tumblr.com/post/702448565057961984/its-that-time-again-its-tumblrs-2022-year-in [[Tumblr]]'s year in review for 2022 via their [https://fandom.tumblr.com/ Fandom site].
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Loqi ok, I added "https://fandom.tumblr.com/post/702448565057961984/its-that-time-again-its-tumblrs-2022-year-in [[Tumblr]]'s year in review for 2022 via their [https://fandom.tumblr.com/ Fandom site]." to the "See Also" section of /year_in_review https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=85039&oldid=84792
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[chrisaldrich] Note to self: tag big events in 2023 with a custom tag like YIR23 or something similar to make the editorial work of creating a Year in Review easier.
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[chrisaldrich] A user interface argument against Tweetstorms? https://twitter.com/jack/status/1602800293850320896
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@jack I don't want to edit everything into 280 char chunks, so here's the rest: https://www.getrevue.co/profile/jackjack/issues/a-native-internet-protocol-for-social-media-1503112 (twitter.com/_/status/1602800293850320896)
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[chrisaldrich] Of potential interest to some here on the funding front, Jack says, "To accelerate open internet and protocol work, I’m going to open a new category of #startsmall grants: “open internet development.”"
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[snarfed]2 yeah those did look possibly relevant for people here
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> Eek. Revue is shutting down.
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aaronpk i was gonna say, that seems like a questionable place to have posted that just now
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[aciccarello] I was wondering about that
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[snarfed]2 evidently they announced the shutdown after Jack posted
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barnaby oof
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[aciccarello] You'd think Jack would be aware of that
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gRegor what is Revue?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Revue" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Revue is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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gRegor I'm not familiar with it, but added to https://indieweb.org/site-deaths#Revue with dates and download links
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gRegor That's a fast time from announcement to site-death, just over a month 😬
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[aciccarello] There are some news articles from today so I think it's safe to call today the announcement today
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M0x3b0b[m] Oh, Klout shut down in 2018? Guess that explains why I hadn't heard anything about them lately.