#indieweb 2023-04-05

2023-04-05 UTC
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[tantek] bkil, that is a very good insight, and yes, does reflect that the audience/personas of folks that come to the IndieWeb site and community had broadened & diversified a lot since those were written
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[tantek] has* broadened
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[KevinMarks] I treat hierarchical tags as a list of tags, I don't think they need containment. More of a bag of words
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bkil [tantek]: This would need a bit surveying, but some options that come to mind would be a separate FAQ per each of the partially overlapping categories of: iwdev, UGC producers on silos & on The Fediverse, web developers, iw-evangelists and website visitors (usually referred by evangelists).
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[tantek] We should at least separate devs / authors, that's definitely a chat we've had about other things on the wiki. Then we can further subdivide from there. This is #indieweb-meta enough that we can move there (as gRegor tried to :)
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Loqi it is probable
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bkil I'm actually missing a (FOSS) article that would detail good hashtag design architecture. It is kind of interesting that I was brought to the indieweb most recently through the hashtags page most recently (but I've already encountered it a few times over the years) https://indieweb.org/hashtags
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[tantek] A FOSS article especially about architecture sounds more on topic for #indieweb-dev
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Loqi hey bkil [tantek]: we try to keep dev talk (FOSS) out of this channel, can you move to #indieweb-dev?
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[tantek] Exactly
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bkil Actually, I did give it a second thought before posting and I sincerely disagree with the bot in _this_ specific instance. Pardon for any jargon term, but the strategy of efficient hashtag use is more about producing content and improving its reach. I.e., it is more of a community management or marketing & engagement related task and should be catering to content producers, not only to iw-devs or webdevs.
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aaronpk the licensing of code is absolutely a developer-specific topic
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bkil Where did I mention licensing of code?
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aaronpk FOSS?
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bkil I referred to missing a "FOSS article", i.e., it is the licensing of the documentation that should be libre (such as commonly found in a wiki). I find it relates to the social concept of free culture & reuse in general, not to coding.
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bkil Maybe I could have avoided that jargon by writing "free article", although I personally find that a trigger word.
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aaronpk i've never heard "FOSS" used in the context of text. maybe because the last S is for "Software"?
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aaronpk i would expect to hear "creative commons" in relation to licensing of documentation
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[snarfed] wow, they didn't waste any time. got this email just now: "This is a notice that your app - Bridgy - has been suspended from accessing the Twitter API. Please visit developer.twitter.com to sign up to our new Free, Basic or Enterprise access tiers."
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[snarfed] so much for April 29
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shreyanjain[m] aww :(
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aaronpk 😮
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shreyanjain[m] hopefully bluesky and the fediverse can replace it
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shreyanjain[m] speaking of which, do you think bridgy will support bluesky?
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[snarfed] hopefully https://fed.brid.gy/ will!
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[snarfed] progress so far: https://granary.io/ supports it, https://github.com/snarfed/lexrpc/ exists
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[manton] [snarfed] What a mess. Just read that Jetpack was also disabled.
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[manton] I’ve been reshuffling my use of the Twitter API, moving to 2.0, but starting to think I won’t have until April 29.
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shreyanjain[m] sad how hard this was inevitably going to hit the indieweb
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aaronpk wowwww jetpack too
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[snarfed] [manton] yeah you should probably expect to get cut off at any time now
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dostoevsky1881 :)
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Personal Websites and the Open Internet" https://jamesg.blog/2023/04/04/personal-websites-open-internet/
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capjamesg LLMs are an interesting query interface for digital gardens.
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capjamesg I was just thinking about how any entry I add to my personal wiki becomes, after re-indexing, part of James Bot.
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aaronpk Please see https://indieweb.org/discuss for channel purposes and logging policies. Code of conduct: https://indieweb.org/code-of-conduct
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capjamesg HWC London / Europe is in 10 minutes https://events.indieweb.org/2023/04/homebrew-website-club-europe-london-LhsKkXFImmkI
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capjamesg Starting now ^
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capjamesg Thank you everyone for attending!
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capjamesg I hope you all enjoyed the meetup!
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[tantek] It was great!
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[tantek] digitalgardens++
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Loqi digitalgardens has 1 karma over the last year
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Throwbacks and Brainstorming Timehop for Blogs" https://jamesg.blog/2023/04/02/timehop-for-blogs/
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[aciccarello] I love the timehop idea
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[snarfed] There was a lot of indieweb timehop experimentation years ago! https://indieweb.org/on_this_day
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[tantek] what are anniversaries
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "anniversaries" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "anniversaries is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] what is anniversary
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Loqi anniversary, in the context of the IndieWeb, refers to the day you started to use a personal domain https://indieweb.org/anniversary
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