#indieweb 2023-07-05

2023-07-05 UTC
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[tantek] [timothy_chambe] interesting post especially from an Atlantic writer with 1M followers! I don't see what in that tweet has anything to do with POSSE in particular. Which of his posts makes a case for a POSSE strategy in particular?
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[tantek] His profile has his own domain, however nowhere in that thread does he say he's going to start posting notes to his own domain instead of or before Twitter or the alternative from Meta etc
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[tantek] For someone to be claiming/making a POSSE strategy, they MUST explicitly be stating that they will FIRST post on their OWN SITE. Lacking that key part, they're not really talking about POSSE
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[tantek] [kevinmarks] and others with strong opinions on the UX of comments & threads & moderating, I found this carousel of text-as-images quite a compelling exploration the the many problems of different expectations, labor, and other asymmetries in comments sections: https://www.instagram.com/p/CuR7VLBAM2X/
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[tantek] Not sure how to capture that in a citable way as text. Maybe extracting key quotes and citing a slide # of the URL. Lots of strong statements of good boundaries to hold/enforce/design for when receiving & displaying comments
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "The First Stab at the IndieWeb Interaction Social Norms" https://sarajaksa.eu/2023/07/the-first-stab-at-the-indieweb-interaction-social-norms/
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[timothy_chambe] [tantek] he isn't super specific about it being on his own directly owned site, but he did say, "I'm going to switch away from platform-based social media to creating my own short video content and then sharing it simultaneously across many different platforms" in that thread. Which struck me in the spirit of a "publish once syndicate" model...
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[tantek] it's not though, there's a difference between "create once" and "publish once", and it's an important difference
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[tantek] see also COPE
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[tantek] hmm, looks like I need to create a subsection for that
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[tantek] goes to edit /POSSE
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[marksuth] https://events.indieweb.org/2023/07/homebrew-website-club-europe-london-TBQZd35KcZyK HWC Europe/London is starting if folk would like to join
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Loqi [preview] LIVE NOW: Homebrew Website Club Europe/London
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[tantek] wow, discovered another site-death: ProgrammableWeb
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[snarfed] oh no really? oh man sad, they were an institution
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[tantek] just added to site-deaths, archive of their shutdown announcement: https://web.archive.org/web/20221017200326/https://www.programmableweb.com/news/programmableweb-being-retired/brief/2022/10/10
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[tantek] [timothy_chambe] now created: http://indieweb.org/COPE
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whyisitnotworkin Um, hello I am new here
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whyisitnotworkin I wanted to get more information about the Indieweb
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[tantek] what is the indieweb
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Loqi The IndieWeb is a community of independent & personal websites connected by simple standards, based on the principles of: owning your domain & using it as your primary identity, publishing on your own site (optionally syndicating elsewhere), and owning your data https://indieweb.org/indieweb
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[tantek] ^ start there whyisitnotworkin and click around!
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whyisitnotworkin Is it possible to get started without any sort of cost?
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[snarfed] whyisitnotworkin yes! lots of free subdomain web host providers: https://indieweb.org/web_hosting#Custom_domain_silos
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[snarfed] and even some free domain registrars, eg https://indieweb.org/free-domain-names
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[tantek] whyisitnotworking, no. everything has a cost. you will have to spend some amount of time at least, though it is possible to trade-off time vs monetary costs.
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whyisitnotworkin I'm fine with spending my time to learn. Monetary is an issue for me given the job market
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Loqi [indienews] New post: https://sarajaksa.eu/2023/07/carnival-of-indieweb-june-2023-edition-indieweb-and-cooking-roundup-post/
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[snarfed] definitely understood! fortunately you can get started for free ^, and then even getting your own domain can be free or cheap, lots of options for $0-10/yr, https://indieweb.org/personal-domain#Domain_Registrars , and hosting options for $0-5/month, https://indieweb.org/web_hosting#Custom_domain_silos
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gRegor what is nearlyfreespeech?
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Loqi nearlyfreespeech is a pay-what-you-use hosting service based in US https://indieweb.org/nearlyfreespeech
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gRegor That's on /web-hosting but not as prominent so wanted to mention it as a cheap option (no personal experience with it)
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[snarfed] ooh interesting https://blueskyweb.xyz/blog/7-05-2023-namecheap cc [manton]
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aaronpk nice!
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[manton] Looks very good.
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