#indieweb 2023-09-19

2023-09-19 UTC
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[tantek] making progress on writing my first TPAC 2023 post. wrote the forward. yes it's an article post with a name/title. hopefully the structure of this first post will flow fairly directly & easily.
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[snarfed] [tantek]++
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Loqi [tantek] has 18 karma in this channel over the last year (99 in all channels)
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c​apjamesg [tantek]++
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Loqi [tantek] has 19 karma in this channel over the last year (100 in all channels)
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[catgirlinspace] [tantek]++
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Loqi [tantek] has 20 karma in this channel over the last year (101 in all channels)
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c​apjamesg Mastodon calls a repost a reblog.
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c​apjamesg Getting Tumblr vibes.
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[snarfed] wait, what? where? historically it's been boost, and the UI still says boost now
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[catgirlinspace] yeah i never heard of any changes. but i use firefish
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[snarfed] oh in the API yes, https://docs.joinmastodon.org/methods/statuses/#reblogged_by . not user-facing though
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[catgirlinspace] would it be worth it to do fediverse through my own website? or should i just POSSE to fedi? kinda like the former because sounds more fun, but worried abt how do i like, follow people exactly?
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[snarfed] good question! if you want to get deep into it, you can follow people from your web site by making "follow" posts: https://indieweb.org/follow#How_to
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[snarfed] those aren't widespread in the indieweb yet, but people definitely do them here and there. and Bridgy Fed happily translates them to following in the fediverse: https://fed.brid.gy/docs#follow
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[snarfed] BF also has a follow UI though, which may be easier
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[catgirlinspace] mhm, bridgy fed seems nice. but i kinda like the idea of doing it all myself i think. just seems all so complex… but it’s learning. and learning is fun so :3
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[snarfed] all true!
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[KevinMarks] how you read fediverse posts on your own site is harder.
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[snarfed] good point, that does take more work. BF exposes a feed for your following timeline. [aaronpk] how do you do fediverse reading?
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c​apjamesg [snarfed] It was on the Mastodon app.
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c​apjamesg It said I "reblogged" one of Evan's posts.
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c​apjamesg > BF exposes a feed for your following timeline. [aaronpk] how do you do fediverse reading?
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IWDiscord <c​apjamesg#0>
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c​apjamesg Huh! TIL.
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s​tarrwulfe > how do you do fediverse reading?
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IWDiscord <s​tarrwulfe#0>
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s​tarrwulfe I usually sub to the RSS feed and read it that way.
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[schmarty] i subscribe to the feed that bridgy fed provides
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[tantek] alright, I think I'm going to change the /jargon page pre-emptively bc so many folks are using fedi in a user-relevant way
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[catgirlinspace] oh wow the discord bridge can look confusing in slack when 2 people use it because of how it all just appears as IWDiscord
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rubenwardy What is jargon
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Loqi jargon is a specific unobvious word, concept, or technology (like Webmention), re-use of a word to mean something other than its common meaning (like feed), or sometimes re-using a word as an acronym (like POSSE), or any abbreviation that requires developer knowledge or skills https://indieweb.org/jargon
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[capjamesg] [snarfed] I wonder what other services would benefit from a webmention a la the script I wrote yesterday for HN.
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[snarfed] [capjamesg] reddit!
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amitp oh wow, some familiar names here
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[tantek] apparently aaronpk already took care removing fedi(verse) from /jargon and webmention too because they were/are very commonly used in the discussion of user features. aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 11 karma in this channel over the last year (98 in all channels)
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c​apjamesg amitp Hello! Welcome!
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[capjamesg] [snarfed] How would that work? Does their API have a free tier?
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[capjamesg] Their search doesn’t seem to be great.
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[capjamesg] Never mind. I can look up by domain: https://github.com/capjamesg/reddit-webmention
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Loqi [preview] [capjamesg] reddit-webmention: Send Webmentions from Reddit to your personal website.
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[capjamesg] Reminder that we have HWC Europe online tomorrow: https://events.indieweb.org/2023/09/homebrew-website-club-europe-london-fMX8NjhrE73a
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[snarfed] amitp hi! this is Ryan Barrett. been a long time!
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amitp hi snarfed! yes, been a long time. I think the last time we met in person was probably the 2017 indieweb summit =)
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[snarfed] yes! sounds right
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[tantek] [snarfed] do you know if Bridgy Fed will federate hashtags in article (as opposed to 'note') post names/titles? E.g. "#W3C TPAC"
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[tantek] (borderline #indieweb-dev I know but this is technically a user-feature)
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[snarfed] I think so! I'll check
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[snarfed] yeah it should
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[snarfed] except Mastodon and others render articles as title and link, not full content, and I don't know how that interacts with hashtags in content. https://fed.brid.gy/docs#which-parts
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[tantek] I suppose it depends if the title itself is linked, or there is a separate permalink URL in display text that itself is linked
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[snarfed] hmm I don't quite follow. you mean, if you have a literal <a> link in the title?
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[snarfed] oh I see
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[snarfed] it's the latter. example: https://indieweb.social/@snarfed.org@snarfed.org/111037693698525196
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Loqi [preview] Bridgy Fed status update
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[tantek] I suppose yes, I'll have a literal <a> link in the title, auto-linking the hashtag on my end
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[snarfed] definitely on the bleeding edge. if that <a> link includes u-category, it _might_ still work w/BF
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[snarfed] (probably #indieweb-dev soon)
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[tantek] ok! I'll try to make sure of that technicality and see how it goes 🙂
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