#indieweb 2023-11-24

2023-11-24 UTC
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[snarfed] right, at least for Bridgy Fed. iirc there is a bridge that just does automated cross-posting between a pair of normal Mastodon and Bluesky accounts though. I don't remember its name offhand
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[KevinMarks] https://html-first.com/
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schmudde hey all. I found [tantek]'s post on `h-review` posts pretty inspiring. But as they mentioned, there aren't many examples in the wild. Anyone working on something like this? https://tantek.com/2023/114/t1/venues-reviews-personal-pages
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Loqi [preview] [Tantek Çelik] 🌱 I have long been a fan of @Foursquare.com and @Swarmapp.com, having created many venues, posted many tips, and (checks profile) over 45,000 checkins. I recently joined @happycow.net and before I start posting new vegan (friendly) venues or revie...
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c​apjamesg schmudde Me!
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schmudde capjamesg: Ah you're doing breakfast and coffee? I dig the wiki. So I guess it's best if I follow examples like https://jamesg.blog/checkins/barcelona/starbucks/?
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Loqi [preview] [James] Starbucks - Barcelona
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c​apjamesg schmudde The idea is still in early development; improvements and iterations are most welcome!
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c​apjamesg Create Day is starting, everyone! https://events.indieweb.org/2023/11/indieweb-black-friday-create-day-build-don-t-buy-P4ZVmtnyGR6v
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Loqi [preview] LIVE NOW: IndieWeb Black Friday Create Day — Build Don't Buy
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[snarfed] morning all! I'm only online a bit today, but I'm working a bit on my browser extensions for replying, liking, or reposting the current page via micropub with automatic syndication to Bridgy Fed
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[snarfed] (technically open source, https://github.com/snarfed/misc/tree/main/indie-respond , but not listed on AMO)
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Loqi hey [snarfed]: we try to keep jargon (Micropub, open source) out of this channel to make it more inviting to newcomers, can you move this to #indieweb-dev?
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[snarfed] yup
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[snarfed] each is a single button that does everything automatically, no UI except for a single text box for replying
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gRegor We're a bit late but Zoom video is now live, in case you tried to join earlier
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gRegor https://events.indieweb.org/2023/11/indieweb-black-friday-create-day-build-don-t-buy-P4ZVmtnyGR6v
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Loqi [preview] LIVE NOW: IndieWeb Black Friday Create Day — Build Don't Buy
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[jacky] joining now!
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gRegor Also just in case you get in the waiting room and we don't see the notification, ping me or capjamesg here and we'll let you in
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gRegor what is style guide
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Loqi A style guide on the IndieWeb is a page that describes writing style preferences or visual design elements about a personal website https://indieweb.org/style-guide
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[jacky] I def started this last night but here it is (cc: [tantek]) https://indieweb-bingo.jacky.wtf (will be redirecting to a new domain for side projects soon)
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Loqi [preview] [Jacky] IndieWeb Building Blocks Bingo
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gRegor lol "Nubwubbubhub" [jacky]++
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Loqi [jacky] has 11 karma in this channel over the last year (42 in all channels)
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[jacky] taking any and all suggestions for the board!
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[jacky] one of the goals is to have it accept them over webmention 🤔
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c​apjamesg [jacky] Can you add a way to save your results?
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c​apjamesg Maybe in a query string?
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[jacky] good idea! I'd need to probably keep the board state too (it's random but I can hold that seed somewhere)
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[tantek] Lolol [jacky] that board is like overheardindieweb
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[jacky] haha yeah
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gRegor what is easter egg
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Loqi An easter egg is an (often small) undocumented feature, many are small jokes, in software or services, including on a few IndieWeb sites https://indieweb.org/easter_egg
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GWG Back finally
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[jacky] joining back now
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[jacky] are we doing demos?
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rubenwardy [tantek]: you include the entire text of a note in the title, seems a bit suboptimal
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[jacky] ah it is time for demos
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[tantek] rubenwardy compared to what? betting my HTML permalinks are still smaller than any silo permalinks, which is good enough. I'd rather prioritize more substantial / impactful features than chasing fractions of percents. the pursuit of "optimal" is a trap, perfect enemy of the good etc. 🙂
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rubenwardy suboptimal in that it created a huge tooltip that was unreadable and filled my screen
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rubenwardy .slice(0, 200)
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[tantek] ^ that's more appropriate for #indieweb-dev
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gRegor if you have some progress, [jacky], but we're still going this afternoon so can demo later.
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[tantek] sounds like you're describing suboptimal browser behavior. which browser / OS?
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gRegor Al and I just had some progress to share
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rubenwardy Firefox and tree style tabs. It's probably only surprised me so much because it appears in front of other tabs, as my tabs list is vertical
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[jacky] oh no I wanna wait a bit!
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gRegor totally fine!
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rubenwardy anyway, nice post. I'm thinking of posting coffeeshop reviews, maybe on each post
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GWG For my first on-site review, I reviewed this week's HWC
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GWG https://david.shanske.com/2023/11/24/7006/
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Loqi [preview] [David Shanske] <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> Reviewed Homebrew Website Club – Pacific – 10th Anniversary & Thanksgiving Edition (events.indieweb.org)One big HWC, for anyone who is available. People from all parts of the world are welcome. Pacific ref...
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[tantek] ^ GWG, there's that ?xml thing I was talking about again, where is that coming from on your page?
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GWG I'm not sure...title tag maybe?
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[tantek] anyway it shouldn't be there, certainly not in the content
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GWG It isn't in there. Maybe x-ray?
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GWG I found it.
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GWG It's in the SVG
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[jacky] this convo is reminding me that we def need to do some work on http://indiewebify.me but I don't know _how_ to write it out
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[tantek] that ?xml should NEVER be in embedded SVG, and is *optional* if the whole file is SVG
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Loqi hey [tantek]: it looks like this conversation is getting pretty technical (XML), can you take it to #indieweb-dev?
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[tantek] but this is yeah more #indieweb-dev talk
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GWG I'm excited. I can review things all through my vacation
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[jacky] rem++
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Loqi rem has 1 karma over the last year
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[jacky] calc()++
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[jacky] css++
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Loqi css has 1 karma in this channel over the last year (2 in all channels)
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[jacky] ah ha! loqi doesn't like parens 😞
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[jacky] also angelo doing this CSS guide right now is making me want some sort of video series about each CSS property and demo
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[jacky] like lol a video form of MDN
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gRegor what is indiemon
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Loqi Badges was a session at IndieWebCamp NYC 2018 https://indieweb.org/IndieMon
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[jacky] there's a missing title for one of the feeds!
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[jacky] https://chat-uploads.indieweb.org/files/2023/11/indieweb-20231124-223132-image.png
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gRegor what is ASCII
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "ASCII" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "ASCII is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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gRegor what is ASCII art
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "ASCII art" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "ASCII art is ____", a sentence describing the term)