#indieweb 2024-02-24

2024-02-24 UTC
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to2ds That's too bad. Would definitely love to roll it back a few versions.
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to2ds Still flashing back to the time when you went to a static page of links on Yahoo to find something.
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capjamesg You can re-make that experience!
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to2ds O
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to2ds I'm trying.
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to2ds Haven't checked but wondering if the Internet Archive has some of the early Yahoo pages.
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to2ds Just went and checked. They do.
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[Joe_Crawford] I'm a big fan of HTML 2.0 https://tilde.club/~artlung/
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[tw2113] here's my tidle club https://tilde.club/~tw2113/
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[Joe_Crawford] And those static HTML Yahoo! pages were built in Perl. Researched back in 2021: https://webdevelopmenthistory.com/1994-perl-yahoo/
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[Joe_Crawford] Nice [tw2113]!
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[tw2113] refresh for random colors
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[Joe_Crawford] NIIIIIICE
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[tw2113] now to remember how to connect 😄
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[Joe_Crawford] When I signed up it was u:p and when I went back to look at it a long time later they moved to ssh keys. I emailed root @ tilde club with a key and got a working reply under 2 hours layer
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[Joe_Crawford] later
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[tw2113] right now it's just spinning on even giving me a pass promt
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[tw2113] prompt*
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[Joe_Crawford] yeah username and password won't work anymore at all
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[tw2113] worst case, it's lost access forever and I left a pretty garden
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to2ds [Joe_Crawford] - Didn't know the Yahoo pages were dynamic. Figured they'd might have been using Perl as a static page generator or something.
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to2ds HTML 2.0 was cool.
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[Joe_Crawford] Histories of the tech at the time worth a look. Way way better tech available now. No way to go backward, but we can always learn from that past.
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morganwebdev Hello. Old school chat UI, I like it
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morganwebdev I kinda wrote a blog recently and well... I wanted to share it
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morganwebdev https://www.morganwebdev.org/posts/note-taking-brain/
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morganwebdev About Notes, POSSE distribution styles
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[tantek] welcome morganwebdev++
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Loqi morganwebdev has 1 karma over the last year
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checo Hi
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capjamesg Welcome morganwebdev!
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[KevinMarks] This is an interesting framing that maps somewhat to indieweb principles, but looks at it from a different point of view https://lrhodes.net/writing/groundedness-networked-community
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[KevinMarks] The spirit of the 1994 era is captured well in the 4th season of Halt and Catch Fire
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capjamesg That was a good television show.
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morganwebdev capjamesg Thank you!
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capjamesg You are most welcome!
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capjamesg What is everyone doing with their websites?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "everyone doing with their websites" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "everyone doing with their websites is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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jeremycherfas Vague thoughts of hosting my own fonts instead of using bunny.fonts
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to2ds Using it primarily as a vehicle for ranting into the void.
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to2ds Other than that, working on webmentions, outbound at first.
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[qubyte] I haven’t done a long read in ages, so I shall continue not to do that and instead potter around in the code. At the moment the special top level pages (about, publications, blogroll, etc.) are all special cases, but I’d like to gather those together to handle them all the same way. The static site builder is graph based and _largely_ config driven, but that means it’s also
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[qubyte] [huge](https://github.com/qubyte/qubyte-codes/blob/main/index.js#L100-L675). Unifying these will let me slim it down a fair bit.
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[qubyte] Otherwise, notes notes notes. My POSSE flow is really good, so I should use it more.
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[qubyte] s/POSSE/micropub and POSSE/
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Loqi hey [qubyte]: can you move the tech talk (blob, Micropub) to #indieweb-dev to keep this channel more inclusive and inviting?
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[qubyte] Sorry!
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_tommys capjamesg[d] bit stuck for what to do next atm, waiting for inspiration to hit. Did like your blog post about 100 things to do, but necessity is the mother of invention as they say 😄
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_tommys Think my next big project is gonna be buying a Pi and learning how to setup my own web server
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capjamesg _tommys[d] I wrote the post and I am too 🤣
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xXKyupiterp365Xx Heyy anyone up today?
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capjamesg Hi!
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nnn0 Hi guys
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capjamesg Hi!
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[Al_Abut] Hey there! I’m up today. What I’m tinkering with this weekend: finish an introductory tutorial on how to draw graphics with CSS.
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[Al_Abut] I’m inspired by the style of these tutorials:
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[Al_Abut] https://joshwcomeau.com
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[Al_Abut] Each page has interactive widgets like http://brilliant.org, which is beyond my javascript skills, so I’ll probably just embed codepen snippets instead.
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Loqi hey [Al_Abut]: we try to keep dev talk (CSS, codepen, JavaScript) out of this channel, can you move to #indieweb-dev?
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[Al_Abut] Haha, fair enough. You missed the “introductory” bit though, my little bot friend.
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capjamesg https://indieweb.social/@pluralistic@mamot.fr/111987590572487488
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Loqi [preview] [Cory Doctorow] If there was ever a moment when the obvious, catastrophic, imminent risk of trusting Big Tech intermediaries to sit between you and your customers or audience, it was now. This is *not* the moment to be "social first." This is the moment for POSSE (P...
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[Al_Abut] Vice is dead?!? I guess not surprising but still sad. They were so punk rock that they come up in books about the New York music scene like Meet Me In The Bathroom.
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[tw2113] at least part of it is
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[tantek] Wowwwww
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[tantek] What was Vice
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Vice" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Vice is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] Vice was a Canadian online publisher which went through a series of successive bad strategies with [[social media]] until it imploded in early 2024: https://pluralistic.net/2024/02/24/anti-posse/
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Loqi ok
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[Al_Abut] It’s mostly dead, a ghost ship sailing in name only.
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Loqi [preview] [Cory Doctorow] Pluralistic: Vice surrenders (24 Feb 2024)
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[tantek] POSSE << Why: 2024-02-24 [https://pluralistic.net/2024/02/24/anti-posse/ Pluralistic: Vice surrenders] <blockquote>This is the moment for POSSE (Post Own Site, Share Everywhere), a strategy that sees social media as a strategy for bringing readers to channels that you control</blockquote>
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Loqi ok, I added "Why: 2024-02-24 [https://pluralistic.net/2024/02/24/anti-posse/ Pluralistic: Vice surrenders] <blockquote>This is the moment for POSSE (Post Own Site, Share Everywhere), a strategy that sees social media as a strategy for bringing readers to channels that you control</blockquote>" to the "See Also" section of /POSSE https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=93440&oldid=91580
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