#indieweb 2024-03-06

2024-03-06 UTC
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[Tom_Nowell] Hi everyone I'm new to IndieWeb! I don't know why it's taken me so long to find it - I heard Jamie Tanna mention it on the Changelog podcast (at 1.5x) and I thought "I have a website too!!! It's not very good, but it's mine!" :D - https://tomnowell.com
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Loqi [preview] Thomas Nowell Logo © 2023 Thomas Nowell Thanks for visiting!
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[tantek] Welcome [Tom_Nowell]++
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[jeremycherfas] Nice clean design [Tom_Nowell]++
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[Murray] what is hwc
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Loqi Homebrew Website Club is a growing world-wide network of meetups for everyone who wants to take back their web experience from social media silos, and own their online identities & content, or just want support with blogging! https://indieweb.org/hwc
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[snarfed] morning all! status update on launching web <=> Bluesky support in Bridgy Fed: right now they have a quota of 10 users per federated server, so I still can't actually open it up to everyone quite yet
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[snarfed] I'm also still debugging bits of it too. hopefully soon I'll be through that and at least ask a few of you to be beta testers!
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aaronpk ooh that is an interesting limit
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[snarfed] yup. seems like a smart intermediate step
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[KevinMarks] This is neat https://x.com/v21/status/1765398563410874381?s=20
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MattDeM Hey I listened to the same podcast as Tom and ended up here too! Here's my site - https://mattdemichele.co
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jeremycherfas Welcome MattDeM
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[KevinMarks] 1990s << https://blog.geocities.institute/archives/7358
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Loqi ok, I added "https://blog.geocities.institute/archives/7358" to the "See Also" section of /1990s https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=93657&oldid=88687
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[tantek] Welcome MattDeM++
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mandaris I'm having trouble connecting to the europe meetup today. I'm a little late but I don't see it on the site.
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capjamesg mandaris[d] It is not on today.
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[tantek] hey mandaris, according to http://events.indieweb.org it looks like there is no HWC EU this week!
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real_devastatia [tantek]: The closest notion I have to spring cleaning is refactoring the whole kit and kaboodle once all of the core features are in place. People who utilize the tutorial I'm writing will have a much better website than I have, to my chagrin.
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mandaris WHAT?!
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lazcorp mandaris IKR? I wrote a whole IndieWeb Blog Carnival blog post only to find out I wouldn't be asked by capjamesg what I'd done on my site this week! ;)
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mandaris I'll ask you about it.
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mandaris @lazcorp, what have you been doing with your site this week?
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[tantek] I know! Here I go and update my auto-linking on my website of @-mentions and @-@-mentions this past Sunday and I have no opportunity to brag about it to folks on Zoom 😂
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[tantek] I guess I really should write that blog post about
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lazcorp @mandaris, very kind of you to ask! By coincidence this week I wrote a blog post for the March IndieWeb Blog Carnival, the theme of which is "Accessibility in the Small Web", and I wrote about the limitations (and alternatives to) alt text for complex images, which you can read at https://www.lazaruscorporation.co.uk/blogs/artists-notebook/posts/complex-images
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lazcorp tantek - a zoom meeting is ephemeral, whereas a blog post is more likely to last, so it deserves recoding in a blog post
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lazcorp mandaris - what have you been doing with your site this week?
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gRegor I added a button to make it easier to send select posts out to Mastodon. A little less manual until it hurts, haha
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capjamesg lazcorp there will be next week!
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lazcorp gRegor - is that on your CMS/admin side?
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lazcorp capjamesg - what have you been doing with your site this week?
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gRegor Sort of. It shows on the public post if I'm signed in.
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capjamesg lazcorp A few blog posts!
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capjamesg https://jamesg.blog/2024/03/04/comparison/
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capjamesg I have a work team meeting this week. Lots of work work!
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lazcorp capjamesg - ah yes, I read them. I particularly liked the one on moderating HWC meetings, and balancing between technical and more general discussion
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lazcorp (I noticed you doing that in practice last week)
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[Joe_Crawford] lazcorp++
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real_devastatia A few months ago, tracydurnell[d] introduce me to a phrase - "learned helplessness" - that has stuck in my mind. Now I see the phrase popping up every so often. This time, it's in reference to beginners using ready-made templates to launch their own websites. https://devastatia.com/now-theyre-whining-about-templates
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[tantek] real_devastatia it's a real phrase based in psychological research for 30+ years or more
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[tantek] lots of formal writings about it if you want to dig into it
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real_devastatia I thought it might be a term from market research or some related field. I think I have the gist of it. I'm specifically interested in why so many Internet users seem to be affected by it.
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real_devastatia It just strikes me as bizarre that, in 30 years, we've gone from everybody itching to make their own website to most people being scared, disinterested, or what have you.
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aaronpk Speaking of, can I steal your hover confetti?? I love it 😅
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real_devastatia The fairy dust cursor trail? See my credits page. That guy made several varieties of it.
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real_devastatia So it seems the phenomenon has become widespread in roughly the same amount of time the term has existed? Now that's weird.
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real_devastatia "By names are the powers awakened," yadda yadda yadda.
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aaronpk Amazing
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real_devastatia I mean correlation != causation, but still.
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[jeremycherfas] I would add a couple more decades to the existence of learned helplessness, having taken seminars with Marty Seligman
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[snarfed] (oops sorry)
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aaronpk 🐈
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to2ds real_devastatia - Wonder if the lack social media dopamine rush dissuades some from creating their own websites.
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starrwulfe I replaced it with the dopamine hit from tuning up my own site and adding features.
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to2ds starrwulfe - Likewise. Great point.
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