#indieweb 2024-03-30

2024-03-30 UTC
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capjamesg Does anyone not put their full articles in their RSS feed?
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[aciccarello] I pull full articles for the first 10 posts and then summaries for 20 more posts.
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gRegor Yeah, I find summary-only feeds frustrating
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aaronpk It's a feed reader not a feed teaser
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gRegor lol
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[tantek] It's because one of the expansions of RSS is Rich Site Summary
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[tw2113] I'm fine with summaries that I hope compel people to click through to visit my site in full
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[tw2113] I don't serve ads or very much tracking in general, it's a small ask
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mandaris aaronpk: aaronpk[d] LOL
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mandaris capjamesg[d]: I'm curious because I don't know if what I'm seeing is the full post sometimes. In the feed, it doesn't say "click here for more". Now, I know your posts are typically longer than what my rss reader says but not when I first started reading.
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mandaris [tw2113]: I get it. I’m sure we all put effort into making our sites. The benefits of having a reader is that the information comes to me and I control over things like font and color.
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cambridgeport90 I have noticed that it shows up differently depending on which reader you have. Raven Reader,for instance, tends to only show a little of the post you're trying to read unless you click the button labeled show full content.
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cambridgeport90 I need to straighten out my reader existence, actually; I like a normal RSS reader (right now my options I'm looking at are Monocle, TT-RSS,or Selfoss, though I can't decide between then) so we'll see.
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[contact898] I'm also slightly annoyed by the not-full feeds, James, but I think a longer excerpt would work. Here it usually doesn't get long enough for me to decide what you're going to talk about and it's frustrating because I have to click 😁
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capjamesg cambridgeport90[d] I like Monocle! The mark as read feature is a bit off, but I use it every day!
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capjamesg [contact898] Thank you for the feedback! I’ll make this change today.
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cambridgeport90 capjamesg[d]: Only thing with Monocle, (and I might be able to help fix it,provided it is PHP),is that the links are not labeled properly,so they show up as "number"to screen readers trying to read them. They look like hash signs when scrolling. I haven't gotten any sighted confirmation around me...yet.
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capjamesg Ah. Tagging aaronpk ^
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[qubyte] I’m a full-fat feed person, but that’s why I’ve been looking into RFC 5005 (and interested in how wide the support for feed pagination is). I don’t want my feed to keep growing, and I can play cache-buster games if I can push old entries into pages.
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[qubyte] Veering toward #indieweb-dev here, so if anyone is interested in talking about pagination, let’s go there.
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capjamesg I have a web question!
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capjamesg Presentational.
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capjamesg Does anyone have any feedback on how I render blockquotes? https://jamesg.blog/2024/03/30/curly-braces/
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capjamesg I wonder if they are sufficiently distinct from my text.
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Loqi [preview] Conundra, indeed: Using curly braces in English
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sknebel capjamesg: 404 not found?
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capjamesg Sorry, try again sknebel.
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sknebel yep, now works
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capjamesg I may or may not need your help with that permissions thing again.
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sknebel I think the quote is obvious enough, barely
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sknebel some background element might help. lightly-colored large quotation marks in the background, like some places do for pullquotes?
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sknebel I'm sure theres CSS examples for that around :D
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capjamesg mandaris[d] My full post text should now be in your RSS reader.
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capjamesg You may need to refresh my feed in your feed reader to see it.
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capjamesg (If someone could test, that would be amazing!-
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capjamesg *)
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mandaris capjamesg[d] The full feed is there. I'll continue to go to the main site as well.
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mandaris capjamesg[d]
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mandaris https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/866577279223595022/1223656406289485974/image.png?ex=661aa5d5&is=660830d5&hm=86e61c49a4018e84397a7748b9d99374eac58b26ebbc0b437b41f79f4cafa80a&
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mandaris Oh no!
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capjamesg My site is currently down for maintenance, but good to know the feed worked!
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mandaris I asked for too much and now I get _NOTHING_
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redblobgames Fishing is important
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capjamesg mandaris[d] This issue is entirely separate from the feed, but I thought I'd fix it now haha.
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mandaris capjamesg[d] It only feels this raw right now / Lost in the labyrinth of my mind / Break up, break free, break through, break down.
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capjamesg 😄
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capjamesg The perfect sentiment for the moment.
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capjamesg goes to play Labyrinth
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mandaris 👍🏾
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Loqi sknebel has 4 karma in this channel over the last year (32 in all channels)
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capjamesg sknebel++ for getting my site back online.
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sknebel :)
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[KevinMarks] Talking of date formats https://hachyderm.io/@molly0xfff/112185436795130619
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Loqi [preview] [Molly White] i messed up my daily note formatting so badly i time traveled back 2,000 years #obsidian https://media.hachyderm.io/media_attachments/files/112/185/436/659/139/289/original/3ac4d90854f980fb.png
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[tantek] lol. And this is why we don't use two digit years. Next time anyone is tempted to do so for "presentational" reasons
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capjamesg How many blog posts does everyone expect in a feed? 5? 10?
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capjamesg I presently publish five, but I wonder if that is too few?
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[KevinMarks] 15 was the original rss default
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[tw2113] WordPress defaults to 10 out of box
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capjamesg I have set it to 20.
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[snarfed] as long as your post velocity isn't higher than the average feed reader's poll rate, it shouldn't really matter too much, since feeds are plumbing, not user facing
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capjamesg What is the average poll rate [snarfed]?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "average poll rate [snarfed]" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "average poll rate [snarfed] is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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capjamesg (I understand this is a guesstimate :D)
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[aciccarello] I would expect between every 15 minutes and a day
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capjamesg ++
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[KevinMarks] A lot of polling sites use relaxation (exponential backoff) to tune polling frequency
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