#indieweb 2024-05-22

2024-05-22 UTC
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[tantek] I'm curious about ways that IndieWeb practices (original content, POSSE) could be used to fight misinformation, or perhaps better framed, displace misinformation with more citable information, with better provenance. Has any considered ways to use their personal site to fight or otherwise displace misinformation?
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[tantek] Similar question re: fighting & displacing slop
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[tantek] Especially in the face of small/medium/large companies embracing, enabling, or otherwise amplifying slop, e.g. https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/ai-news-story-hoodline-19442459.php
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capjamesg [tantek] how would you use your website for this?
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capjamesg It sounds like you are on the cusp of some ideas 😉
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[KevinMarks] Cory's post is good on how he does this https://pluralistic.net/2024/05/21/noway-back-machine/#pew-pew-pew
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[tantek] capjamesg, there's a broad range of possibilities, lots of ideas!
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[tantek] everything from ultra local (photo) journalism, like (photo)-blogging about seemingly interesting or ordinary things in the public world around you, firsthand experiences
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[tantek] to citations practices to provide discoverable chains of provenance
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[tantek] the more well marked up (and well-cited) real firsthand experience information we publish and share, the easier it will be for search engines and other discovery mechanisms to find such actual real content and potentially prefer / surface it above misinfo content
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[KevinMarks] Also explicitly sending linked pages to archive services helps
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[tantek] yes, also a good practice
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jeremycherfas I think I have automated sending links to archive . org but I don't actually check the result. Wondering whether to add that, at least in the event of failure.
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Hypertext Web Fiction: An Indieweb Publishing Medium?" https://ramblinggit.com/2024/05/21/hypertext-web-fiction.html
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[benatwork] ^ Question Mark, Ohio is really interesting - some pieces of it will disappear before others
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[benatwork] Also I humbly submit ben.lol, which is a different kind of indieweb web fiction site
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[Jo] Ohh i like stuff like this ive been thinking about doing something like that myself recently!!
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[tantek] Speaking of quote posts, interesting settings for who can(not) quote you: https://www.threads.net/@mosseri/post/C7POKWWJwny/
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[Al_Abut] We talked about citizen journalism at the popup about social norms. What sparked it is that some of my photos from a citizen science event got spotted on IG and they asked to use it in their writeup: https://rewildmissionbay.org/2024/01/30/exploring-natures-force-a-recap-of-wandering-the-king-tides-event/
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[Al_Abut] What’s cool is that kind of grassroots publicity works for local events. Just a few short months later they got the city council to approve improvements and expansion for their initiatives.
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[Al_Abut] And it’s also a good example of POSSE - they use their blog for everything and promote heavily on IG.
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[tantek] nice!
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[contact898] the indieweb events calendar is being weird again, is the homebrew web club now or in an hour?
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jeremycherfas In an hour, I believe.
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aaronpk in what way is it being weird?
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[contact898] my calendar says 7pm french time (ie. 6pm UK)
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[contact898] this says 8pm https://events.indieweb.org/2024/05/homebrew-website-club-europe-london-1UvVxccFFGsb
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[contact898] and this says 7pm https://hwclondon.co.uk/ (so i guess i got it from there)
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[contact898] and the http://events.indieweb.org homepage says 7pm with no timezone indication, but it also says december 2023
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[contact898] https://chat-uploads.indieweb.org/files/2024/05/indieweb-20240522-170241-image.png
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aaronpk are you looking at an archive page??
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aaronpk this says 7pm, i don't know where you're seeing 8pm https://media.aaronpk.com/2024/05/22100530-7784.png
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jeremycherfas https://hwclondon.co.uk says 18:00 British Summer Time, which is plain wrong. HWC starts at 19:00 British Summer Time.
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jeremycherfas In other news, timezones are hard.
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jeremycherfas https://events.indieweb.org/tag/hwclondon seems not to have been updated in a while.
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aaronpk ahh the tag page, yeah it shows past events when there are no upcoming events with the tag
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jeremycherfas Or perhaps the tag is no longer in use?
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aaronpk looks like people haven't been adding hwclondon to the events in a while
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jeremycherfas I'm too infrequent an attendee to notice.
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jeremycherfas But hope to be there tonight (if I can finish packing).
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aaronpk i still don't see anything that says 8pm
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[contact898] I said 8pm french, so 7pm London, which is what is showing
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jeremycherfas I think [contact898] was saying that 7pm BST would be 8PM CEST, for them in France, as it will be for me in Italy.
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aaronpk got it. yes the times show the local times, and you can hover over to see the time in your timezone
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jeremycherfas Well I never! Missed that.
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jeremycherfas Very clever. aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 6 karma in this channel over the last year (132 in all channels)
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aaronpk (or click for even more timezone conversions)
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[contact898] thanks! I'll fix my calendar
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Loqi Homebrew Website Club Europe/London is starting soon! Join us! https://events.indieweb.org/1UvVxccFFGsb
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capjamesg Join us ^^
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[Ros] ↩️ Joining for a short time soon!
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harbinger_of_decay Hi! I'm Paddy a hobbyist WebDev from the UK 🙂 having tried and failed to get a job woth an agency i've gone back to being a builder. But I still love the internet, if not the corporate millieu we find ourselves in.
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harbinger_of_decay I own the domains paddy-mccabe.com and paddymccabe.com which were my webdev portfolio and my freelancing business respectively. I have taken them down now and am mulling over what to do with them.
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harbinger_of_decay I am thinking that paddy-mccabe.com should be another webdev portfolio but with none of the old corporate crap but focussed more on the more awesome stuff I have built in the past like browser games or gaming web-apps.
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IWDiscord <h​arbinger_of_decay>
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harbinger_of_decay Paddymccabe.com will be more like an old school personal website with not a single thought given to SEO
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harbinger_of_decay [edit] Hi! I'm Paddy a hobbyist WebDev from the UK 🙂 having tried and failed to get a job with an agency (for 4 years)i've gone back to being a builder. But I still love the internet, if not the corporate millieu we find ourselves in.
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IWDiscord <h​arbinger_of_decay>
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harbinger_of_decay I own the domains paddy-mccabe.com and paddymccabe.com which were my webdev portfolio and my freelancing business respectively. I have taken them down now and am mulling over what to do with them.
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IWDiscord <h​arbinger_of_decay>
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harbinger_of_decay I am thinking that paddy-mccabe.com should be another webdev portfolio but with none of the old corporate crap but focussed more on the more awesome stuff I have built in the past like browser games or gaming web-apps.
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IWDiscord <h​arbinger_of_decay>
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harbinger_of_decay Paddymccabe.com will be more like an old school personal website with not a single thought given to SEO
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capjamesg Welcome to the indie web, harbinger_of_decay[d]!
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harbinger_of_decay Thank you 🙂
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "The web belongs to everyone. But also does it?" https://dead.garden/blog/the-web-belongs-to-everyone-but-also-does-it.html
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pcarrier is the dark theme on indieweb an experiment?
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pcarrier seems to come and go
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aaronpk not that i am aware of
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[Joe_Crawford] I don't see dark mode at all. Setting my OS to dark mode doesn't register any change. I don't see a preference in https://indieweb.org/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering
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pcarrier I 100% saw a dark mode for a couple of page loads o_O
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suki harbinger_of_decay[d]: Long ago my domain was meant to become a software company. That never panned out and decades ago I repurposed it for a personal website with not a single thought given to SEO as well. You are not alone. ~ tritarget.org
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[Joe_Crawford] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dark_mode#:~:text=Users%20of%20the%20Vector%202022,in%20the%20%22Appearance%22%20menu: _"Users of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Vector_2022 skin can enable dark mode by enabling "Accessibility for reading (Vector 2022)" in the "Beta features" section of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences, then setting the option to "dark" in the "Appearance" menu." ... so that means the
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[Joe_Crawford] skin may have it in there._
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[Joe_Crawford] In the IndieWeb wiki I do not see "Beta features" 🤷
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capjamesg We spoke about everything from webmentions to dinosaurs in HWC today!
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[Jo] everything from AM radio to chiselled javascript
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capjamesg [Jo] chiselled javascript is a great name for a blog.
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Loqi hey [Jo] capjamesg: would you mind moving this conversation (JavaScript) to #indieweb-dev? thanks!
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capjamesg A blue dinosaur instructs us to move our conversation about chisselled javascript to another channel.
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capjamesg (This will be funny to the people on HWC 😂 )
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[Jo] lol
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