#indieweb 2024-05-23
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Loqi Homebrew Website Club - Pacific is starting soon! Join us! https://events.indieweb.org/i68Swhvi4o4T
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[Joe_Crawford] ^^ this ^^
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# ultrrvioltt hi! idk what to say lol. been interested in the concept of an indie internet recently and contributing to one. webmaster for a radio station but never built a website or app before from scratch, familiar with front end dev and a little with nextjs but hoping to learn more here !
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# ultrrvioltt ok thats my intro thx
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# [Joe_Crawford] HWC Pacific ended. Thanks everybody for joining!
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# cophee Will join the global one tonight!!
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# Loqi Homebrew Website Club (Global Edition) is starting soon! Join us! https://events.indieweb.org/O1kOoHwSy66q
# cophee omw!
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# cophee thanks for today!!!
# pcarrier capjamesg[d]++
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# cophee capjamesg[d]++
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# [Joe_Crawford] Front End Study Hall in a few hours. https://events.indieweb.org/2024/05/front-end-study-hall-003-CHeoDn1hkrMq
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[tantek] hypothesis: by the time Mastodon "shipped" or "took off", people had already been socialized on social media (e.g. Twitter) to be anti-social, that they brought that default behavior to Mastodon, and hence despite it being distributed, there has been, and continues to be quite a bit of federated outrage (federage)
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[KevinMarks] This is true, but it's not dominated by rage the way twitter is. BlueSky is also interesting in this way, as it is evolving blocking and labelling norms now too that are filtering things to some extent. Both are places where I can expect more thoughtful replies than twitter
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# [Joe_Crawford] these networks reflect the cultures that people come to them from are a part of... why they're there.
# [Joe_Crawford] early twitter was fun piffle because we didn't realize it might elect presidents and enable revolutions one day
# [KevinMarks] I have written a few long posts about twitter's descent before now, yes.
# [KevinMarks] A lot of it was design decisions to amplify engagement, by sending people to those they didn't follow
# [Joe_Crawford] That is the primary problem with Threads. By design it disrespects what I might want to see and read.
# pcarrier twitter became algorithmic and everything went downhill…
# [Joe_Crawford] for me the value of the silo is dependent on who is there and what they're saying and whether I have to sort through things that don't interest me. I'll put up with ads if I don't also get algorithmic additions.
# [Joe_Crawford] and I think it best to have no qualms whatsoever over unfollowing people whose content is no longer of interest. it's not personal. it's about utility to me. But that meant that the churn of who I follow was high. California Fire near me? Follow local resources. Fire's over, stop. Political news out of some specific place, same deal. And when the news is no longer of interest, unfollow. Very dynamic.
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# [Joe_Crawford] The less porous the boundaries, the more it’s a silo. More interop, less silo. That’s my mental model of “silo”—blue sky is more silo than mastodon, less silo than twitter
# [Joe_Crawford] All of those are less silo than instagram
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# Loqi A footnote is a typographical convention predating the web for indicating more information is available about a word, phrase, or sentence by the use of an immediately adjacent superscript (usually a number), and the presentation of the same superscript followed by a note, often a citation, in the footer of the page, and sometimes used on the web instead of inline hyperlinks to reduce reader distraction https://indieweb.org/footnotes
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# Loqi Front End Study Hall #003 is starting soon! Join us! https://events.indieweb.org/CHeoDn1hkrMq
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# [Joe_Crawford] Thanks for joining everyone. Lots of great stuff in the etherpad! https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2024-05-23-front-end-study-hall
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# [Joe_Crawford] I've been alternating Tuesday <--> Thursday every 2 weeks but have a conflict so next FESH will also be a Thursday. Hope to see you there! https://events.indieweb.org/2024/06/front-end-study-hall-004-DVYPvvZYYlHT
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# [Ros] [Joe_Crawford] ++
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# [snarfed] submitted my application/survey to attend https://2024.xoxofest.com/ ! no clue how selective it is, but I've never been, and I'd love to
# cophee Morning!!!
# cophee capjamesg[d]: What time is it where you are?
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# cophee 😎
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