#indieweb 2024-05-24

2024-05-24 UTC
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windiebb I don't know why but I thought this was going to be a busy and bustling place!
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capjamesg Welcome!
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capjamesg Do you have a personal website?
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capjamesg It's okay if you don't, we're able to help get you started, too!
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[Jo] Welcome new person. Can't see your name because I'm using Beeper but hey
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cophee heyya @windiebb!
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pixelglade Hi there, i had troubles accessing the Discord - is it still active?
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capjamesg Hello pixelglade! Yes, it is!
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capjamesg What issue did you run into?
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pixelglade sorry I forgot I posted I'm still here, got hyperfocused on something. When I clicked the indieweb link on the wiki for the discord it was not loading the channel and I got an error message
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pixelglade Oh I think what happened is I clicked a channel link before clicking the invite link
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pixelglade Yep that was the problem. My bad
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pixelglade Is there a reason there are hyperlinks to individual channels rather than having a list of them to stop this kind of thing from happening? (Admittedly a skill issue but it's late on Friday and I wasn't paying proper attention)
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cygnusx01 Hi so I'm here for real now. Got a few different websites (not sure if I'm allowed to post but they're in my profile). Currently redesigning my one for this alias and taking some pointers from the Indieweb Wiki on h-cards. Pretty interested in microformats but I don't have any PhP or other skills to implement the harder stuff like with comment forms and webmotion. Looking forward to learning more from this community! (I got started on Neoc
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capjamesg Welcome, cygnusx01[d]!
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capjamesg You are allowed to post your personal website, for sure!
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capjamesg I think everyone here enjoys exploring personal websites 😄
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cygnusx01 which channel is best for sharing that sort of thing?
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capjamesg This one!
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cygnusx01 I'll probably share once I do the redesign haha because now I'm working on it and seeing what an improvement it is, the old one feels cringe to me
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capjamesg The #indieweb-dev has a lot of developers who can help with microformats, Webmention, and anything technical. This channel is all about websites: sharing them, talking about them, discussing ideas for what we want to do on our sites, etc.
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capjamesg I like your website!
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cygnusx01 aw thank you
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capjamesg And your pixel art, too!
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cygnusx01 so happy there are pixel art enjoyers here ❤️
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capjamesg My site is https://jamesg.blog. I write about coffee, programming, and whatever else comes to mind!
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cygnusx01 This is cool, I like the way you've done the "posts" section or feed
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cygnusx01 actually this is something I wanted to ask about
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cygnusx01 I noticed some people have "posts" that look like social media posts but are blog posts. Or maybe are news announcements and a blog is separate. Is there a standard way to do this in terms of what the feed is called or setting up permalinks?
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cygnusx01 Are they auto linked to RSS somehow or do you just need to copy paste them into RSS? At the moment I've just been copy-pasting any news updates I have into RSS but they don't look like social posts right now but I'm thinking of changing that
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Loqi friendly reminder capjamesg, cygnusx01, would you mind moving this conversation (Microformats, RSS) to #indieweb-dev? thanks!
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cygnusx01 If the discussion belongs in #indieweb-dev then yes it can move there 🙂 if someone has a reply you can ping me there
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capjamesg Let's go to #indieweb-dev. I can help!
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capjamesg https://thricegreat.neocities.org/why_technology_is_uninteresting_nowadays.txt
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cygnusx01 I wondered if people posted Neocities stuff here because it seems like this is a different community than Neocities - how much overlap is there?
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[Jo] I love the format of this blog
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[Jo] Very minimalistic
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[Jo] Like the whole site i mean
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[Jo] ↩️ I'd say there is at least some! I mean neocities means your site is hosted so its not exactly "The Ideal™" but i think still much better than hosting every thought on twitter
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capjamesg A few community members (including myself) have in the past or do run sites on Neocities.
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[tantek] What is Neocities?
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Loqi NeoCities is a free website hosting silo in the spirit of defunct silo GeoCities (Yahoo shutdown in 2009) that looks like a stepping stone to getting started on the IndieWeb https://indieweb.org/NeoCities
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[tantek] cygnusx01, some examples there ^
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cygnusx01 [tantek]: thanks!
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[Ros] ↩️ I’d not heard of this before. I opened the page and saw they have _such_ great talks. Already watched/listened to three this morning while starting my day. How sad to just discover them and realise this is their last event - I hope you get drawn out!
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[Ros] Hey friends, I wanted to share my first big Indie Web milestone. This screenshot might not look like much but it’s my first personal website, live on the web, that I have crafted from scratch :partying_face: (I won’t show it yet because I’m too shy yet)
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[Ros] Yes, the picture is squished up but I’m so proud because getting that picture up was a result of 2.5 hours frustrated with Github/Visual Studio Code trying to understand what a repo is, and how the heck to update one, and get the parts to talk to each other. And I did it.
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[Ros] Now to get my CSS sheet to talk to my HTML. Thank you lovely friends for helping me start my baby steps in something I feel way out of depth with. I can’t wait to keep going 🙏
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[Ros] https://chat-uploads.indieweb.org/files/2024/05/indieweb-20240524-134256-screenshot_2024-05-24_at_14.37.28.png
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cygnusx01 Hey Ros, that's awesome. 🙂
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[Ros] @cygnusx01 or, at the very least a start. Weeks ago I couldn’t code anything so it feels immense to even know how to open Github
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capjamesg [Ros]++
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capjamesg Amazing work!
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[aciccarello] Wohoo, congrats Ros!
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[aciccarello] I'm sure you could get some help with the CSS in #indieweb-dev if you'd like
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cophee [Ros]++ LETS GOOOOOO
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cophee cygnusx01[d] I’m happy to help as well!! I don’t know any backend but managed to get webmentions working after a long time
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Loqi hey [aciccarello] cophee: it seems like this conversation is more appropriate for #indieweb-dev (CSS, backend)
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[Ros] I CHANGED THE FONT! Haha, I’m so happy.
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cophee [Ros]: YES!
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cophee I think every time I figure out something my mood elevates by a 1000000000
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cophee It’s like the most rewarding game 😆😆
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cygnusx01 wing_wingpang_com_[d]: Same here
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cygnusx01 wing_wingpang_com_[d]: Oh neat.
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[Ana_R] Nice one Ros!!
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[Jo] ↩️ Ros++ very nice
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[Jo] Did the bot not see that bc its a reply
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[Jo] Ros++
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[Joe_Crawford] Ros++ awesome!
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[tantek] [Ros]++ awesome!!!
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capjamesg [Ros]++
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[Joe_Crawford] https://digiday.com/media/why-publishers-are-preparing-to-federate-their-sites/
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cophee [Joe_Crawford]: I absolutely see this happening on Instagram!
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cophee I think it was either The Verge or some other publisher
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cophee YEAH!! The Verge!
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[Joe_Crawford] Federating comments on large media sites will accelerate things in ways I feel unable to predict. Spam, trolling, moderation, defederation. I keep thinking about FidoNet and Usenet as prior art but neither are perfect analogues.
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capjamesg The Verge are at the forefront of digital journalism right now.
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[tantek] [Jo]++ for The web belongs to everyone. But also does it?
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[tantek] via this week's draft newsletter via IndieNews
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[Jo] Thanks!
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cophee capjamesg[d]: I love some of the interactive articles they have
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capjamesg[d] Reminder that I have several projects / domains I am no longer maintaining and that are looking for new owners: https://gist.github.com/capjamesg/eba29d51e0197f49523b1fc02ada6f2e
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pcarrier[d] I want the miniflux experience for activitypublishing. small binary, postgres database, good to go
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pcarrier[d] ah, gotosocial 🙂
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[snarfed] pcarrier those definitely exist! https://github.com/aaronpk/nautilus , https://humungus.tedunangst.com/r/honk , https://codeberg.org/seppo/seppo#seppo , etc
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[snarfed] (follow-ups probably in #indieweb-dev)
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Loqi [preview] [aaronpk] Nautilus: Turn your website into an ActivityPub profile
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