#indieweb 2024-06-22

2024-06-22 UTC
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claudinec I added a Hello page which (for now at least) also serves as a Contact amd Elsewhere page: https://www.claudinec.net/hello/
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Loqi [preview] Claudine Chionh
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capjamesg[d] claudinec++
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Loqi claudinec has 8 karma over the last year
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claudinec Thanks capjamesg[d] !
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claudinec Tofay
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claudinec Today is a tinkering day
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capjamesg[d] Yay!
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Loqi does a happy dance!
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capjamesg[d] What else are you working on claudinec?
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claudinec I'm starting to add archival links and disclaimers to old posts so I can keep/resurrect old content and fight linkrot.
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claudinec https://www.claudinec.net/posts/2019-03-18-ides-of-march/
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Loqi [preview] Claudine Chionh
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capjamesg[d] Exciting!
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[tantek] capjamesg[d] finally published my short post about microformats and POSSE anniversary last night: https://tantek.com/2024/173/t1/years-posse-microformats-adoption
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Loqi [preview] [Tantek Çelik] Happy 12 years of https://indieweb.org/POSSE #POSSE and 19 years of https://microformats.org/ #microformats! (as of yesterday, the 20th) A few highlights from the past year: POSSE (Publish on your Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere) has grown steadily a...
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capjamesg[d] [tantek]++
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Loqi [tantek] has 21 karma in this channel over the last year (104 in all channels)
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capjamesg[d] Great post!
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capjamesg[d] It looks like there is an autolink problem.
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capjamesg[d] The Verge article links to https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/23/23928550/posse-posting-activitypub-standard-twitter-tumblr-mastodon): (with the ): as part of the link).
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Loqi [tantek] capjamesg[d]: it seems like this conversation is more appropriate for #indieweb-dev (Microformats, ActivityPub)
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capjamesg[d] Thus, I get an error when I click the link.
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[tantek] Oops good catch!
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[tantek] Hey Loqi, quit complaining about words in URLs!
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[snarfed] argh, looks like this post re-triggered that weird BF or Mastodon bug where it federates fine but never actually shows up 😕 https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy-fed/issues/884#issuecomment-2184055857
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Loqi [preview] [snarfed] Looks like this may have happened again with https://tantek.com/2024/173/t1/years-posse-microformats-adoption . BF delivered it like normal, https://fed.brid.gy/web/tantek.com shows that 309 inboxes received it ok and returned HTTP 2xx, but I can't f...
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[snarfed] hey [tantek] do you know of any of your fediverse followers on non-Mastodon instances?
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[snarfed] I can look, just lazy
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[tantek] Maybe some http://micro.blog followers?
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[snarfed] oh huh would it have them follow you via AP and not feeds? that'd be surprising
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[snarfed] guess we're headed to #indieweb-dev
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[tantek] Yeah
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[tantek] Sorry to keep tripping this bug :/
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[tantek] [snarfed] maybe I should post asking my non-Mastodon followers to reply?
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[tantek] To help debug
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[snarfed] nah we're probably not that far yet, first step is to find one of them ourselves and see if it got delivered to their instance
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[tantek] Google-- because searching for tantek asciibet fails to find this very simple post, so I'm pasting the link here hoping maybe this chat gets indexed by Google https://tantek.com/2012/361/t2/fyi-printable-asciibet also failing DuckDuckGo--
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Loqi Google has -2 karma in this channel over the last year (-1 in all channels)
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Loqi DuckDuckGo has -1 karma over the last year
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Loqi [preview] [Tantek Çelik] FYI printable asciibet: !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~
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[tantek] websearch-- for continuously dropping indieweb results from their index and getting shittier overall. they really are trying to tempt folks to build things to replace them
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Loqi websearch has -1 karma over the last year
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[tantek] bing-- for also completely failing a search for "asciibet" tantek OR "asciibet" "tantek".
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Loqi bing has -1 karma over the last year
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[tantek] who is maintaining these search engines who is to blame for their crappier indices?
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[tantek] why are all these search engines dropping (perhaps older?) results from the authentic human-authored web in deference to the more recent spam junk?
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[tantek] even "dumb" plain text indexing or AltaVista would have found these results
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[tantek] search << Why you should have your own personal-site-search (instead of delegating to a web search engine) : because the major search engines ([[Google Search]], [[duckduckgo]], [[Bing]]) have all started dropping (perhaps older) posts from IndieWeb sites and blogs, like a search for "tantek" "asciibet" on all three of those search engines failed to find https://tantek.com/2012/361/t2/fyi-printable-asciibet on 2024-06-22 which should have been
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[tantek] trivial from indexing the words in the URL alone, nevermind the title element and post contents.
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Loqi ok, I added "Why you should have your own personal-site-search (instead of delegating to a web search engine) : because the major search engines ([[Google Search]], [[duckduckgo]], [[Bing]]) have all started dropping (perhaps older) posts from IndieWeb sites and blogs, like a search for "tantek" "asciibet" on all three of those search engines failed to find https://tantek.com/2012/361/t2/fyi-printable-asciibet on 2024-06-22 which should have been" to the "See Also" section of /search https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=95919&oldid=95708
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[tantek] capjamesg[d], can you reload https://tantek.com/2024/173/t1/years-posse-microformats-adoption and see if the autolink problem is still there for you?
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[tantek] I think I fixed it
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Loqi [preview] [Tantek Çelik] Happy 12 years of https://indieweb.org/POSSE #POSSE and 19 years of https://microformats.org/ #microformats! (as of yesterday, the 20th) A few highlights from the past year: POSSE (Publish on your Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere) has grown steadily a...
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capjamesg[d] [tantek]++
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Loqi [tantek] has 22 karma in this channel over the last year (105 in all channels)
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capjamesg[d] It is fixed.
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[tantek] thank you for the bug report and the verification capjamesg[d]++
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Loqi capjamesg[d] has 59 karma in this channel over the last year (203 in all channels)
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capjamesg[d] My date archives are back! https://jamesg.blog/2024/
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capjamesg[d] (And my static site generator now automatically generates them)
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[tantek] Woohoo!
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Loqi does a happy dance!
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