#indieweb 2024-08-01

2024-08-01 UTC
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[tantek] I have noticed that in the Olympics coverage they are using "@-names" to refer to Instagram handles now. Twitter/X is completely gone. This is a big shift
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aaronpk 👏
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[tantek] Considering flipping over my auto-linker @-name default linking accordingly or maybe some discussion in #indieweb-dev
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Choosing Tools" https://tantek.com/2024/213/b1/choosing-tools
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[tantek] finally after several webmention attempts
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[tantek] alright syndicated to IndieNews and emailed capjamesg[d] per the request on his post
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[tantek] Funny enough I started with an article title with four times as many topics as I ended up writing about, and after writing about of the four, went back and added a small fraction of one more to end the article on a more upbeat note
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[tantek] about one* of the four
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capjamesg[d] [tantek]++ great blog post!
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capjamesg[d] I would love to read more on the "While democratization of tools is nearly always a good thing, I can think of a small handful of examples that demonstrate that sometimes it is not. That’s worth a separate post." point in a separate post.
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capjamesg[d] I, too, want a good synchronised note-taking app that works across macOS and iOS.
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capjamesg[d] I use Notion which is nice but there are tiny things that increasingly frustrate me (delays in syncing, layout shifts, the cursor not appearing where it should, among others).
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[KevinMarks] https://x.com/simonw/status/1818973433247723563 https://x.com/Noahpinion/status/1818776478315954200
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[jeremycherfas] 1writer is a very good plain text notes app for iOS and Mac.
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[aciccarello] Does anyone use a short domain email address as an alias to use when sharing an email address in person?
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[aciccarello] You might want a separate email for this, but I'm thinking about all the stores where they ask for a member email address.
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[tantek] mailto:yo@do-not-spam-or-add-to-your-list.example.com
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[tantek] oh you said short domain, nm
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[aciccarello] Yeah, my name/domain is a little hard to spell so I'm thinking about alternatives
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[tantek] capjamesg[d], my tools post inspired another by a formerly active IndieWeb community member! https://tommorris.org/posts/2024/a-world-run-by-tools/ (not officially part of the Blog Carnival but feel free to add it if you want to related or subsequent etc. section)
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[tantek] I think I will add it to a section on my post
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[tantek] now what to call that section (since it's not technically a "comment")
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[tantek] what is a post footer
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Loqi Post or posts may refer to individual pieces of content published on an indieweb site such as notes, articles, & responses, or the act of creating the aforementioned content (present tense), or Posts about the IndieWeb https://indieweb.org/post_footer
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[tantek] lol clearly I have gone down this rabbithole before. glad I left some breadcrumbs (links to examples)
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[tantek] oh drat apparently I have links to TUAW(.com) which is now a GenAI zombie 😞
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[tantek] darn it
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[snarfed] [aciccarello] maybe aaronpk? his site is http://aaronparecki.com but afaik his email is at http://aaronpk.com? not sure
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aaronpk my email is @parecki.com which also means i have to spell it out letter by letter when checking in to a hotel
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "IndieWeb Movie Club: August 2024 - The Matrix (1999)" https://marksuth.dev/posts/2024/08/indieweb-movie-club-august-2024-the-matrix-1999
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[aciccarello] Yeah, the spelling things out is what I'm looking to avoid
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[aciccarello] I might also have a specific email address for stores/businesses to keep it separate from my personal.
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aaronpk i think it's a little sad that a lot of the kiosks have buttons for @gmail.com @outlook.com @hotmail.com too
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[tantek] oh yeah, photograph that for the NASCAR page!
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[tantek] especially if you find one with "http://aol.com"
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[aciccarello] I don't hate that. It's better than stressing while someone waits for you to mistype gmail
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[aciccarello] It is funny to see what providers they have shortcuts for
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aaronpk haha i'll take a photo next time i see one
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[tantek] aciccarello, re: "specific email address for stores/businesses to keep it separate from my personal", I think that's a use-case for a celebrity / pop-fiction character name email address for the lulz
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[aciccarello] Oh, that'd be fun
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[tantek] just to see if the person at the store/business blinks or otherwise reacts 😂
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[aciccarello] You could also throw in a fun new TLD like .meme or .star
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aaronpk lol
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[tantek] nah that's likely to get misintepreted or misheard or they'll add a .com after it anyway
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[tantek] lol apparently .club is popular among a certain set: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.club
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to2ds Loqi: A personal favorite!
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to2ds I like masked emails now to keep everything separated.
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[tantek] wow completely missed this silo fail that wasn't even that old: https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/15/22534253/irl-social-network-facebook-groups-calendar-events-messaging (died in two years)
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[KevinMarks] My friend used to give companies email addresses of the form {companyname}@{hisname}.com so he could tell who had sold the email.
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[tantek] I mean I still do that
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[tantek] that also confuses many service workers (the human kind)
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[Joe_Crawford] ^^ Yes indeed. Zoom is opened
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[tantek] will try to get there in a bit, heads-down documenting the TUAW disaster
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[tantek] ok cleaning up my own home (blog) before putting Google News on blast. fortunately I only had one TUAW link from my blog AFAIK
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Zegnat [aciccarello]: I tried once. My email is also first-name @ last-name which is annoying. But I have licit.li as a domain for my blog, so used that for my email temporarily. Still ended up having to help people write it :(
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Zegnat You do not just need short, you need something that does not need spelling and required no corrections. You probably want a .com, just because everyone knows email addresses that end in .com
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Zegnat (I sometimes had people write .ly instead of .li ...)
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[aciccarello] Yeah, I'm trying to pick a new short domain with both length and sound in mind
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[tantek] right, speakable / listenable URLs
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[tantek] what is URL design
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Loqi URL design is the practice of deliberately designing URLs, in particular, permalinks, typically for a better UX for everyone who creates, reads, and shares content https://indieweb.org/URL_design
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[tantek] aciccarello 11y ago 😭 https://tantek.com/2013/104/t2/urls-readable-speakable-listenable-retypable
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[tantek] alright, cleaned up my blog, back to document TUAW
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Zegnat Internationalisation is big there too ... what is speakable in one language might not be in another. (Case in point, my name :P )
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Zegnat something dumb like catdogspoon.com might be better than one word if the one word is only going to be spelled correctly by native speakers
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[tantek] to add fuel to the fire (of the Olympics abandoning Twitter's @-namespace in preference to IG @-namespace), https://techcrunch.com/2024/08/01/twitter-app-mac-store-2024/
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[Joe_Crawford] FrESH was just me and Todd but we made the most of it. 🙂
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[tantek] Bummed to miss it! Ran out of time documenting TUAW then had to run to another appointment
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aaronpk I didn't even know there was a Mac app version of Twitter
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to2ds [Joe_Crawford]++ for CSS wizardry!
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[Joe_Crawford] to2ds++ for good questions and solid ideas!
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lule345 psa that the OldTwitter extension exists (more or less) on Firefox, and fully on Chrome
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capjamesg[d] [Joe_Crawford]++ for organizing + hosting!
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capjamesg[d] I couldn't attend this one, but I'll try to join the next one!
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