#indieweb 2024-09-17

2024-09-17 UTC
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jacky that's two people at Font Awesome now
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jacky (Zach of 11ty and now Verou)
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[tantek] whoa interesting!
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capjamesg[d] [tantek] I filled out the HTML survey.
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doesnm magic link requires email?
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pcarrier not always. eg whatsapp magic links.
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doesnm want indepent auth provider without password :(
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pcarrier I also make magic links for people who've lost access to their passkeys on xmit.co and transmit them as securely as possible
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doesnm irl meeting? XD
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pcarrier in one instance, yes!
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[fluffy] Most folks who log on to my site do it via email + magic link, although there’s a fair number of folks who auth via mastodon. Basically nobody does it by indieauth except me though.
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[fluffy] Twitter used to be the most popular but when they made the API changes my auth thingy broke and I haven’t felt like fixing it.
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[tantek] [fluffy] "when they made the API changes my auth thingy broke and I haven’t felt like fixing it.", same same
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catgirlin.space i wannya have indieauth on my website for private posts but implementing it all sounds annoying :( (because i'd want relmeauth too......)
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catgirlin.space all of my friends have github actually ig. i could just, do github auth,,, i already use that to authenticate myself,,,
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[tantek] I agree with the observation that for friends, it helps to have github auth (formerly twitter auth)
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[fluffy]1 yeah I really should add github to authl, at least
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[fluffy]1 and relmeauth for that matter
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[tantek] yeah, similar with the libraries I use -> #indieweb-dev
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[mattl] what is webdav
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Loqi WebDAV is an HTTP-based protocol used to create and edit files on a server that has some IndieWeb adoption https://indieweb.org/WebDAV
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[snarfed] site-deaths << https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/mozilla-social-faq
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Loqi ok, I added "https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/mozilla-social-faq" to the "See Also" section of /site-deaths https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=97321&oldid=97320
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[snarfed] (not a surprise I guess, since they heavily deprioritized it a while ago)
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[mattl] I think I want to move away from my mastodon instance and move to something under my own identity.
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[snarfed] [mattl] I have a bridge to sell you 😎
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[mattl] does it support DMs? I seem to get a lot of DMs on Mastodon.
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[snarfed] no, sorry
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[snarfed] I wonder if http://micro.blog does. I suspect no
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[mattl] No, I don’t think it does.
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[snarfed] otherwise you may like https://masto.host/
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[mattl] Not a problem, I have an email address.
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[mattl] okay, going to try and use bridgy fed for my Mastodon stuff 🙂
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[mattl] snarfed: no way to get [mattl]@mat.tl?
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catgirlin.space there is
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catgirlin.space https://fed.brid.gy/docs#web-profile
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catgirlin.space [snarfed] will that break stuff if i change it after already using bridgy fed?
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[mattl] awesome!
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[mattl] now i need to figure out how to point bridgy fed at my http://micro.mat.tl for posts
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[snarfed] http://catgirlin.space do you mean, if you start using BF as [domain]@web.brid.gy, and then later switch to [domain]@[domain]?
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Loqi [preview] rosalina saige
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[tantek] [snarfed] I have that same question for BF / Bluesky
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[snarfed] it won't break anything, but they're two different fediverse identities
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[snarfed] [tantek] do you mean, if you eventually switch your bridged Bluesky handle from http://tantek.com.web.brid.gy to just http://tantek.com?
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[tantek] correct!
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[snarfed] BF doesn't support that yet, but when it does, it'll be the same account
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[snarfed] unlike fediverse
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[tantek] how do I "rel=me" consolidate those identities?
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[tantek] automatically?
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[tantek] without having to directly manipulate any BF UI?
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[snarfed] I don't think it's possible for Bluesky, they don't have profile links
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[snarfed] for fediverse, I guess to/from https://fed.brid.gy/web/tantek.com ? lol this was the weird GH issue we looked at a bit ago
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[snarfed] oh wait no
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[snarfed] rel=me href=https://fed.brid.gy/r/https://tantek.com/
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Loqi [preview] Tantek Çelik
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[tantek] I think I have that already on my home page and that got me my green checkmark on mastodon?
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[snarfed] right
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[snarfed] [mattl] just plug http://micro.mat.tl/ into https://fed.brid.gy/#enter-web-site !
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[snarfed] ...but that will make your fediverse identity @micro.mat.tl@...
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[mattl] Yeah, I need to link to it somehow… I have an RSS feed, I guess I can link to that on http://mat.tl
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Loqi [preview] Dr. Matt Lee
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[snarfed] sure, or serve your posts or redirects to them on http://mat.tl, and then send wms for them to BF
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Loqi [preview] Dr. Matt Lee
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[mattl] Yeah, I’m weird about it but I really like my homepage to be free to clutter.. http://micro.mat.tl is just my http://micro.blog site
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[snarfed] not weird at all, that's the beauty of indieweb, everyone gets to present themselves online however they like
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[mattl] okay so https://mat.tl has a <head> link to my RSS feed now…
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[mattl] <link rel=“alternate” href=“https://micro.mat.tl/feed.xml” type=“application/rss+xml” title=“Dr. Matt Lee (mattl)“>
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[mattl] Does that look good?
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Loqi friendly reminder [mattl], that's a lot of dev jargon! RSS, XML... can you move to #indieweb-dev?
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capjamesg[d] [mattl]++
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Loqi [mattl] has 2 karma in this channel over the last year (16 in all channels)
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capjamesg[d] Yeah!
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[tantek] yes please markup -> #indieweb-dev
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catgirlin.space [snarfed] i mean moving from catgirlin_space0[d]catgirlin_space0[d] to @catgirl@catgirlin.space
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catgirlin.space oh, thanks discord,,,,,,
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catgirlin.space @\catgirlin.space@\catgirlin.space
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[snarfed] ah
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[snarfed] same answer, yes, that's a different fedi identity
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[snarfed] theoretically it should be doable under the same actor id, but in practice most fedi software chokes and stubbornly (and technically against the AP spec) insists that they're different
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catgirlin.space hm okii, i will consider doing that then maybe,,,,
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catgirlin.space yeah i have a friend who did some weird stuff with a db (i think sharkey?) to see what changing a username would cause lol
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catgirlin.space and every other instance just. broke.
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[snarfed] yuuup https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy-fed/issues/1074#issuecomment-2125733151
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Loqi [preview] [snarfed] Sigh. Under the covers, BF uses Bluesky DIDs in AP actor ids, eg `https://bsky.brid.gy/ap/did:plc:3ljmtyyjqcjee2kpewgsifvb`, not handles. The original hope/goal there was that we wouldn't need "migrations" at all, since the actor id stays the same ac...
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