#indieweb 2024-09-30
2024-09-30 UTC
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want-to-build hello everyone
# want-to-build I wan to build my own website, a smolblog
# want-to-build for small things
# want-to-build I hope this is a good place to talk about that
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# want-to-build also I have another question for IRC, how can I use browser based chat and yet receive messages from the times that I was not online? Is there a way?
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aaronpk no, you'll want to join from either Slack or Discord for that: https://indieweb.org/discuss
# want-to-build I see, thanks! I actually enjoy IRC way much more, it is really small and cute :3
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "The secret power of a blog" https://tracydurnell.com/2024/09/29/the-secret-power-of-a-blog/
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capjamesg[d] [Joe_Crawford]++ for https://artlung.com/blog/2024/09/27/a-person/
# capjamesg[d] [edit] [Joe_Crawford]++ for https://artlung.com/blog/2024/09/27/a-person/
# capjamesg[d] [Jo]++ for all the cool website changes!
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# onla could you make a discussion forum with webmentions?
# capjamesg[d] [edit] This was a sad but good read: https://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2016/may/16/bookslut-was-born-in-an-era-of-internet-freedom-todays-web-has-killed-it
# capjamesg[d] It is from eight years ago, but I found it through a blogger who had quoted it.
# capjamesg[d] But you probably won’t get much attention."
# capjamesg[d] "When you’re just an enthusiast, you can write about anything you want. You can publish long interviews with writers that only 20 people have ever heard of, knowing full well that maybe two dozen people will read all the way to the end. You can write serious, long reviews of books from small presses and faraway countries. Your only restriction is the limit of your curiosity.
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# onla This hub page could integrate something like mastodon or other similar platform for technically non-savvy people who would want to participate in the discussion. They could practically post new topics or comment others posts through the hub's interface. Their posts would go to their own (micro)blogging page through the integration handled by the hub aswell as show up as copies at the hub's page
# onla like everyone else's webmentions
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# [Joe_Crawford] Thanks capjamesg
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# [snarfed] onla: https://openmentions.com/ is trying to be a webmention-based forum
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[schmarty] what was http://indieweb.xyz?
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# onla snarfed: Yeah it seems so. Has not gained much popularity, maybe some day. indieweb.xyz seem to do some redirects to unrelated sites
# [schmarty] yeah indieweb dot xyz gone, now. was hoping loqi would answer me. https://indieweb.org/Indieweb.xyz
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# Loqi Indieweb.xyz (archived) was a syndication service organized into subs until ~2023-02-26 at least, similar to Reddit, created by Kicks Condor https://indieweb.org/Indieweb.xyz
# Loqi IndieForums is an IndieWeb friendly forum that allows users to post content or replies on their own site and cross post to the forum automatically using Webmention notifications both to the forum itself and to the original posts on other authors' websites https://indieweb.org/IndieForums
# Loqi Homebrew Website Club Edinburgh is starting soon! Join us! https://events.indieweb.org/MurGckGA1W2U
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# onla This micro.blog is being advertised at indieweb.org and indieforums.net. It's a paid service, $5 a month. I thought that when I come to this corner of the internet, I'm not expecting to see this kind of business model
# onla s/expecting/gong
# onla s/gong/going
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[mattl] there’s also a WordPress plugin and other things which you can host yourself, http://micro.blog is a web host.
# Loqi Micro.blog is a social web site & posting service started by Manton Reece with built-in support for using your own domain and other IndieWeb building-blocks, ActivityPub/Mastodon, and POSSEing to many services such as Tumblr, Medium, Flickr, and Bluesky https://indieweb.org/Micro.blog
# Loqi Web hosting can be the primary regular cost in maintaining an IndieWeb site; this page lists several options from free on up depending on your publishing needs, like a static, shared, private, or dedicated server https://indieweb.org/web_hosting
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# onla Ok yeah true
# onla Do you know some other barebones-like indieweb-friendly tools/platforms like this
# onla I'm not exactly sure how that is indieweb-friendly but it says on the readme
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# onla Well, "sending webmentions". What does that mean in simple terms
# onla someone named jmac seems to be hanging out here who could be related to this plerd
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# Loqi Webmention is an open web standard (W3C Recommendation) for conversations and interactions across the web, a powerful building block used for a growing distributed network of peer-to-peer comments, likes, reposts, and other responses across the web https://indieweb.org/webmentions
# Loqi Plerd is a free and open-source static site generator project developed by Jason McIntosh, optimized for use with single-user blogs https://indieweb.org/Plerd
# onla In the plerd readme it says to consult plerdwatcher and plerdall docs for details but I'm lazy. I'm wondering what it means in case of plerd
# onla they can "send". I saw somewhere else on some other project that they can "receive" webmentions. Can you do only one of the two in some cases or is the wording just different and they all send and receive if they support it
# Loqi Telegraph is an open source API and service for sending webmentions, part of the p3k suite https://indieweb.org/Telegraph
# onla I found plerd accidentally when I was checking random tilde blogs. One blog was made with plerd, but that blog didn't have an identifiable webmention support http://tilde.club/~silver/2015-07-18-plerd.html
# onla just getting started. I'm interested in static sites and very barebones. The webmention thing is intriguing but I don't really have anything to say and I don't blog really (still I would choose static site and barebones if possible) Probably I could comment on someone else's blog using webmentions though
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# capjamesg[d] [tantek] Re: visions for the web. One UX thing on my mind is how time-based aggregation can be used to make feeds easier to parse.
# capjamesg[d] My feed reader updates every day at 5am, so I get a "morning paper" of sorts with blogs.
# capjamesg[d] There is no concept of state, so I don't have to worry about clean vs. busy inboxes or a pressure to read everything or that I'm somehow falling behind.
# capjamesg[d] I love aaronpk + sknebel's grids. I think there are so many more things like that one could make that emphasise the idea of activity. Maybe if someone clicks on my mascot it gets a hat for everyone, and cycles through several hat styles 😂
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[aciccarello] That'd be so cool
# [aciccarello] Not to get all #indieweb-dev but is there a way to target an eink browser in page styles?
# [aciccarello] Looks like there might be
# [aciccarello] But that's for #indieweb-dev
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# capjamesg[d] _pi_r2_0[d] has done some work in this realm with his website!
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[tantek] did anyone here participate in (write blog posts for) "Small Web September"? https://smallweb.dreamwidth.org/5194.html
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gRegor Tomorrow starts Weird Web October if anyone is interested: https://weirdweboctober.website/
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "blogtober" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "blogtober is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# [Joe_Crawford] The link rel as a means to "get the word out" is new to me. https://octothorp.es/
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