#indieweb 2024-11-28

2024-11-28 UTC
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curiousindie is there an indie alternative to voice acting sites? i keep seing privacy policies that essentially say "we get to use your voicereels and demos and auditionings for voice acting roles to feed to AI, sell it, profile you etc."
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curiousindie good example is CastingCall.club
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curiousindie people without an account can see posts, only members can hear submissions (basically a comment with an audiofile attached.)
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gRegor oof, that sucks about them feeding it into AI
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curiousindie yes(!) it feels like it is with the art community and AI, but not acted against tbh
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curiousindie the only cool thing is hearing other voice actors' submissions for roles you're looking at. it's really a driving force for me and others to get up and record for a role.
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gRegor Hm CastingCall seems to indicate they don't do AI? "6.4 CCC has not and will not use User Submissions for AI training purposes."
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curiousindie oh?!
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gRegor https://www.castingcall.club/terms-of-service
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curiousindie i got overly pessimistic by the OPT-OUT section containing hundreds of vendors tbh - my bias!
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gRegor I'm not in the industry so don't know alternatives. You could set up a personal site as a portfolio and post stuff there, but then discovery becomes an issue
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curiousindie yes, i'm looking at fediverse stuff right now. Mobilizion seems cool with events on a big wall to sort through - without algorithms! also groups for projects. i wonder if comments under posts could contain audio submissions.
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curiousindie /open question
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curiousindie lol actually reading the ToS and it still feels like my bias is confirmed. i got my hopes up for nothing when you mentioned that snippet about AI, gRegor ! /neutral tone
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gRegor Oh, sorry
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curiousindie quote, 6.2 "You grant to CCC a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, fully sublicenseable license to use, distribute, edit, display, archive, publish, sublicense, perform, reproduce, make available, transmit, broadcast, sell, translate, and create derivative works of those User Submissions, and your name, voice, likeness and other identifying information where part of User Submissions, in any form, media, software, or technology of any
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curiousindie kind now known or hereafter developed, in each case, for any purpose whatsoever, commercial or otherwise, without compensation to you:"
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gRegor That's a pretty common bit of legalese, which usually just means "we need this in order to publish stuff on your behalf"
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gRegor I am not a lawyer, of course
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curiousindie is it? i might be too much of a pessimist with the sublicensing and selling and derivative works sounding like "our partners buy your voices for their AI models, all legal" to me
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curiousindie either way an indie/fediverse alternative to selfhost or join will be awesome
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Kongaloosh Aloha
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curiousindie hej
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gRegor true, "sell" and "derivative works" are concerning there. Most of the stuff before that is common though
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Kongaloosh I have a question about Bridgy fed. I noticed something kinda funny
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Kongaloosh My domain is being properly picked up and my dns did is set
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Kongaloosh But bridgy fed lists a different did on my page
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curiousindie appreciate to hear that, gRegor
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Kongaloosh Has anyone run into a similar issue?
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gRegor Hiya Kongaloosh, we can probably help more with that in #indieweb-dev
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Kongaloosh Woops. It’s been a while since I irc’d and I got a bit turned around
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gRegor No problem :)
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Kongaloosh Thanks gRegor 🙏
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gRegor Commented some ideas over there for you
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Aabrinae hi Loqi I am handling things at my home in NM in a bit..
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Aabrinae and then going west again to California for a bit probably
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Aabrinae was just going to south LA but interested in some web stuff while new project going on
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immibis related to the discussion about timestamps: numbering things with serial numbers isn't great either, unless your site follows a strict chronological format
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immibis the above legalese says they can do whatever the f they want with your uploads
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