#indieweb 2024-11-27

2024-11-27 UTC
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aaronpk on a more lighthearted note, i have an interesting conundrum
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aaronpk i have been digitizing old family video tapes, and I want to share some clips from them
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aaronpk should I create backdated posts from like 1996 on my site?
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aaronpk if I write any text that goes along with it, I would post it as a new post, but there's a bunch of stuff I'd like to have online with no other commentary, so i'm tempted to backdate it
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[morganm] I don't think so
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aaronpk i also use my site as an archive often, to browse through past years to see what I was doing. so for that reason I would also like the posts backdated
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[morganm] I have a posters brain too and post many things, but I don't see any value for anyone reading the backdate as anything other than demonstrating how online one is
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aaronpk haha that's one way to look at it
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[morganm] The alternative is a new post announcing a new discovery of old material ? Makes it less of a demonstration in my mind just a preference
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aaronpk i think i talked myself in to backdating the videos
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[morganm] Sure heh
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aaronpk i may make some of them private posts, just for me
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[tantek] pretty sure we have a whole page discussing thoughts about this because GWG was doing something similar with material from the 1980s
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[tantek] what is backdating
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "backdating" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "backdating is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] hmm
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aaronpk oo
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aaronpk i vaguely remember that
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aaronpk what is throwback?
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Loqi A throwback is a current post of content from some time ago, typically at least days, often years https://indieweb.org/throwback
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[tantek] what is a throwback
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Loqi A throwback is a current post of content from some time ago, typically at least days, often years https://indieweb.org/throwback
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[tantek] lol
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aaronpk ha
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[tantek] jinx
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[tantek] backdating is /throwback#Past_Dating
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Loqi ok
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aaronpk your examples there are exactly what i was thinking: "Create a backdated post (retropost) with only the content that was created as of the point in time of the backdate, no subsequent annotations"
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[tantek] yup, glad I already wrote down my thoughts at the time 😂 https://indieweb.org/throwback#Backdated_post_restrictions
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[tantek] upon cursory rereading I think I stand by those brainstorms
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[tantek] now what I really should do is add my indieweb examples as I have MANY time published posts of photos taken days / weeks / months before
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[tantek] and my technique for solving the "browse through past years to see what I was doing" use-case is using "hashdatetags"
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[tantek] aaronpk see for example https://tantek.com/2022/289/t1/hot-skyline50k-ultra-finish
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Loqi [preview] [Tantek Çelik] 10w ago: 9:29:05 50k PR, hot #trailRace @ScenaPerform #Skyline50k Thanks @bryanting @aeables @dtran320 @vivekgowri pics&support, @corrinemalcolm training me back to an ultra start+finish 3y after #ECSCA. #run #trailRun #trailRunning #ultraRunning #... https://fastly.4sqi.net/img/general/width960/476_tjk6ja88e3mjglC50lmeeMAwpr4Pozk_yVhAIuNgq3E.jpg
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[tantek] that post was published more than two months after the event and photos therein. thus I hashdatetagged it #2022_219 #20220807
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[tantek] now what I have yet to build is the "what was I doing on this day" view which would present some union of posts created on that day, and posts ABOUT that day (which would be automatically queried via such hashdatetags)
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aaronpk that'd be cool
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aaronpk what is date tagging?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "date tagging" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "date tagging is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] in this case, I did not post on the day itself of the event, and didn't want to
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[tantek] yeah I just made that up. datetag datetagging hashdatetag hashdatetagging etc. but have been practicing it for quite some time
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aaronpk i don't do that very often, but I suspect I do have an occasional post about a day that I post a short amount of time after (short being days/weeks/months, but not years)
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[tantek] I don't know anyone else that uses hashtags like that to tag the "what date is this post about" info
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[tantek] right
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aaronpk I don't know if I would do it with hashtags, but I like the idea
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aaronpk wow, my posting frequency has really gone down a lot the last few months
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[tantek] get ready for the December IndieWeb Gift Calendar spike!
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[tantek] 😄
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GWG [tantek]: 90s I think
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[tantek] GWG your example in the /throwback page says 1980s
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[tantek] aaronpk, apparently I've also used hashdatetags on posts about FUTURE events, e.g. https://tantek.com/2019/348/t1/running-muc50-first-50-mile
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[tantek] published in 2019 with hashdatetags #2020_074 #20200314 about planning to run a race on that future date
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[tantek] and apparently multiple hashdatetags on a post about multiple days: https://tantek.com/2019/204/t2/running-hiking-tunnel-creek-lake-tahoe using hashdatetags #20190719 #20190720 #20190721 #2019_200 #2019_201 #2019_202
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Loqi [preview] [Tantek Çelik] #trailtuesdaythrowback to #running & #hiking up the Tunnel Creek Road #trail at Lake Tahoe last Saturday to cheer Bryan & Krissi running the TRT 55k! (Spoiler: they did great!) Great people to spend a weekend with starting Friday(2), then getting up... https://fastly.4sqi.net/img/general/width960/476_Onavl2K2n0A0z9JGZ5G0dBQ0ZjH5yo6zCRVXRco6PuM.jpg
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aaronpk interesting!
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[tantek] recorded a few of those examples for now in /throwback page, and if anyone else finds or publishing hashdatetags, we can create a separate page for that with past, present, future examples
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[tantek] or *is publishing
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chomwitt hello. I am reading the getting start page. Is there info on a suitable webserver for indieweb sites?
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capjamesg[d] What is hosting?
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Loqi Web hosting can be the primary regular cost in maintaining an IndieWeb site; this page lists several options from free on up depending on your publishing needs, like a static, shared, private, or dedicated server https://indieweb.org/hosting
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capjamesg[d] That page may be helpful for you ^
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chomwitt thanks.
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capjamesg[d] [Joe_Crawford] Would you mind if I promoted FReSH on my blog?
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SystemPrompt that bot should have a different trigger so people don't try to answer the question
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SystemPrompt i thought about having two metadata dates on posts - when it was posted, and when the events it describes happened. but actually why does my site need to be a chronological list of posts? it doesn't, and maybe shouldn't. i still haven't fixed it though.
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SystemPrompt ordering by post date is only important when you're looking at a site as a chronological stream, to see new things since you last visited, or using something like RSS
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artlung capjamesg[d] not at all, I appreciated your mention and link to FrESH the other day, for example
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[tantek] what is on this day
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Loqi on this day is a feature on some silos and indieweb sites which show posts published on the current (typically Gregorian) day of the year in previous years; commons sites tend to show more general historical events that occurred on that same day https://indieweb.org/on_this_day
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SystemPrompt what is Special:RandomPage
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Special:RandomPage" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Special:RandomPage is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] hi SystemPrompt, do you have a personal website?
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SystemPrompt https://immibis.com/ but it needs work. today I improved the navigation sidebar.
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SystemPrompt every page with this sidebar is generated by the application server written in C. there's a patchwork of what is directed to the application server and what's a static file at the moment.
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Loqi SystemPrompt has 1 karma over the last year
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[tantek] SystemPrompt++ nice clean minimal yet quite readable design and spot use of color to indicate nav and context.
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immibis it's inspired by readthedocs
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immibis but then on the right side is this big white box that has to be filled with some kind of "content"
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immibis :)
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Loqi Homebrew Website Club Europe/London is starting soon! Join us! https://events.indieweb.org/oGk0qfb6pRWI
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[tantek] Oh?
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[tantek] I like this idea of a separate "likes" page especially for folks that don't want to include their likes in their default / home / "main" stream/feed: https://reillyspitzfaden.com/likes/
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[tantek] (via #indieweb-stream)
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[tantek] Does anyone else have a dedicated likes page for this reason or other reasons? Perhaps if so that's a pattern we could document
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[snarfed] I do somewhat: https://snarfed.org/responses
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[snarfed] I vaguely remember that we documented this before, not sure though
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[tantek] oh yeah! separate page for responses is also good
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[tantek] and reactions as well if we broaden beyond likes
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[aciccarello] I include recent likes and bookmarks on my link-in-bio page
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[aciccarello] Oh, and replies.
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[aciccarello] https://www.ciccarello.me/links/
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