#indieweb 2024-12-08

2024-12-08 UTC
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[tantek]
capjamesg[d], to put it on topic on the record since it was a gift for the calendar, I have updated my post about Why, What, How to Post based on your feedback to hopefully better express the scope/intent and more scoped CTA: https://tantek.com/2024/337/t1/why-what-how-to-post
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Loqi
[preview] [Tantek Çelik] This is a summary curation of prior posts of mine on why post, what to post, and how to post, as well as some bits I wrote on the #IndieWeb wiki. This post assumes you already have a blog — if you don’t have one and wonder why you should, that’...
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[morganm]
https://htmlforpeople.com/ <---- Ive been really settling on this course as the best total introduction to HTML and website making, lately
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[morganm]
If someone asks how to get started I link them that
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Moult
[morganm]: you've got broken links on the main page
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Moult
[morganm]: e.g you link to https://htmlforpeople.com/intro without a trailing slash which you haven't handled correctly
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Moult
[morganm]: e.g. try `curl https://htmlforpeople.com/intro` notice how you get nothing back, compared to `curl https://htmlforpeople.com/intro/`
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[morganm]
I dont see that issue when I click the links? Its not my website
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[morganm]
Its just a good course Ive found, but they will likely be very responsive to any feedback
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Moult
[morganm]: yeah most browsers will canonicalise the url so you won't notice the error
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[morganm]
What browser did you use when you found the issue?
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Moult
[morganm]: it'll break on some text browsers though. yeah sorry probably should report the error to them
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Moult
[morganm]: elinks
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[morganm]
Im curious, is a text based browser important to you for some particular reasons? Is accessibility and progressive enhancement not good enough on mainstream browsers? I just looked up elinks and its very interesting
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Moult
[morganm]: i don't use many "web apps". and when i'm looking for content on the web, it's almost always text. minor exceptions are the occasional image search, video, or map
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[morganm]
Is there a preferred web based test that checks for compatibility with text based browsers? Something like https://Yellowlab.tools or a simple Enter a URL and check the compatibility ?
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Moult
[morganm]: not that i'm aware of. if someone builds a website that doesn't work on a text browser, they probably don't know how HTML works
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[morganm]
Just thinking about my own website, and another website I operate
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Moult
that, or don't care.
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Moult
[morganm]: originally when building websites the first thing you'd do is build the most critical content and test it without any css or javascript and see if it semantically captures everything
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Moult
[morganm]: and you'd also build it so that functionality would work without javascript - javascript was there to enhance the interaction, not be the sole way that you could view the site
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Loqi
friendly reminder Moult, can you move the tech talk (CSS, JavaScript) to #indieweb-dev to keep this channel more inclusive and inviting?
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