#indieweb 2024-12-12

2024-12-12 UTC
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "San Diego IndieWeb Camp 2024: Community Play" https://artlung.com/blog/2024/12/11/sdiwc2024/
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Kolev I've always debated whether to put blog at /blog/ or / or just put he blog index at /blog/ and everything else at /yyyy/mm/dd/ or something.
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Loqi Homebrew Website Club - Pacific is starting soon! Join us! https://events.indieweb.org/S7CkAWWc2d68
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[tantek] What is url design?
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Loqi URL design is the practice of deliberately designing URLs, in particular, permalinks, typically for a better UX for everyone who creates, reads, and shares content https://indieweb.org/URL_design
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[tantek] Kolev ^ good questions and some exploration of that there ^
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Kolev [tantek], I'm definitely following capjamesg URL design.
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Loqi capjamesg[d] has 76 karma in this channel over the last year (216 in all channels)
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[tantek] capjamesg[d]++ for your gift!
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funkylarma Who or what is Loqi and how do all these automations work? Is there a how to guide I might have missed?
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doesnm who is Loqi
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Loqi Loqi is a friendly and useful bot/digital therapist present in the IndieWeb discussion channels https://indieweb.org/User:Loqi.me
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funkylarma Thank you, who would have thought it was that simple 😉
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[mattl] Is anyone else just seeing “incoming-webhook” on most posts?
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aaronpk the slack ios app sometimes glitches out like that
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[tantek]2 since we were talking exercise and sports
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[tantek]2 what is sports
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Loqi 💪 exercise is a (typically) passive post type that represents some form of physical activity https://indieweb.org/sports
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[tantek]2 funkylarma, I like the ideas you were sharing in #indieweb-cafe on that topic, would be great to continue that on topic chat here!
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[Joe_Crawford] On my iPad: just upgraded to 18.2 of iPadOS. Logged out of IndieWeb Slack on iPad. Logged back into indieWeb Slack. Also see `incoming-webhook` as the identifying username for anyone not natively using Slack.
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Kolev incoming webhook
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[mattl] [Joe_Crawford] just upgraded OS and updated the app and no change for me.
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[aciccarello] I'm seriously thinking about creating a /stickers page
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[aciccarello] What are stickers?
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Loqi stickers are adhesive labels usually with graphics to show an affiliation (like the IndieWeb sticker), a technology (like microformats), or accomplishment, often placed on the backs of laptop screens, and a form of swag https://indieweb.org/stickers
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[aciccarello] Oh we should add benji's page to that
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btrem https://chat.indieweb.org/2024-12-12/1733967979688800
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btrem @Kolev I've struggled with that, too. I ending up going with yyyy/mm-slug for articles, posts, etc., and /feed/ for my list of such articles. Not sure how happy I am with it, but I think it's better than having an extra `posts/` in all my urls.
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gRegor Yeah, I'm in favor of no prefix like "/posts" or "/blog". I've been doing it for a while and it hasn't caused issues 🤞
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aaronpk i used to have a post type prefix in my URLs and i ended up hating it and switched away from it finally in 2015
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aaronpk er, january 30, 2016 apparently
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aaronpk https://aaronparecki.com/2016/01/30/4/indieweb
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Loqi [preview] [Aaron Parecki] With any luck, this will be the last post I make on my old site! Switching over to the new and improved p3k today!
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[tantek]2 in general I feel the meta-lesson learned there is to avoid putting the "format" or "type" of your content into your URL path
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[tantek]2 I think I feel this way about /lists/ for example
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[tantek]2 or rather I'm starting with flat names at the root (works for Wikipedia!) for topic-based pages until there's a real world need to do otherwise
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Kolev What is /lists/?
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Loqi A list is a feature on personal sites, often a page (not a post), for collections of things that may not need separate posts, and distinct from a listicle https://indieweb.org/lists
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btrem My SSG avoids putting the document format in urls by writing each post to its own subdirectory as index.html. But I didn't like the trailing slash. It took a fair bit of wrestling to get what I wanted, yyyy-mm-fileslug (with /no/ .html at the end!).
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Kolev btrem, where's your site?
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btrem https://btrem.com
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gRegor I can kind of see both angles to it. My /lists page is intended as an index of my lists, not really the format or type, so maybe that's the difference. It's a "list of lists".
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btrem Prepare to be underwhelmed, all ye who choose to visit. :-D
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gRegor Also on my site those are all "just" pages basically, so it's not like it's pulling together specific posts or something, which is usually what a site is doing if there's a "/posts" prefix
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btrem I've been opposed to .html or .php or whatever in my urls for a long time. .php is particularly bad imho because (a) users don't care what tech you use to build your site; and (b) you might change that tech.
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Loqi friendly reminder btrem, we try to keep jargon (SSG, PHP) out of this channel to make it more inviting to newcomers, can you move this to #indieweb-dev?
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btrem I can, Loqi, though I think url design is appropriate to #indieweb. :-p
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gRegor Yeah, it is on topic :)
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Kolev URL design gets me nerding out.
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aaronpk oh another reason to not put post type in the URL is posts might change what type they are!
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btrem ...whereas with .html in a web site address (that term ok with you, Loqi? :-D), at least that tells the visitor what format the page is in. I still don't do it, but one could make the case that it's relevant to a visitor.
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aaronpk for example if I post a note and it's kind of long, I might later add a title and then it becomes an article! i don't want to move the post to a new URL just because of that
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aaronpk or adding a photo to a note later
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btrem IIRC, that caveat was discussed by Sir TBL in the famous "Cool URIs don't change" article.
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btrem (I mean the caveat mentioned by @aaronpk)
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