#indieweb 2025-01-16

2025-01-16 UTC
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btrem Regarding the acknowledgements idea, I discovered a new term: postface, which has roughly the same function as a preface but comes after instead of before. Hence post, not pre. Who knew?
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btrem But the term is unusable in a web context, since it would be confused with the term post.
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btrem In fact, I'd probably avoid any compound word or portmanteau containing "post", with the exception of "postscript", as a heading for any section of a page that comes after the content.
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gregsarjeant Is there anything like an IndieBookClub for activity tracking? I'm thinking of something that less about metrics and more like a journal. I thought it would be interesting to record more qualitative impressions of workouts and such. If no such thing exists, it'd be a good learning opportunity for me to write something.
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gregsarjeant I have only the vaguest idea of what I hope to get out of this. :)
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[tantek] like an IndieWeb version of Strava?
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gregsarjeant Something along those lines, but with more emphasis on reflection and conversation. I've been wanting something like a Strava with a stronger sense of community than just a bunch of likes.
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gregsarjeant Though I suppose an IndieWeb version of Strava could lend itself toward that just by virtue of being part of the IndieWeb.
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gregsarjeant Maybe I'm mixing up the application and the community.
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aaronpk oh no, i just realized all my links to foursquare.com in my checkin posts are going to die soon
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aaronpk do i need to scramble to create venue pages on my site finally??
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[Jo] @gregsarjeant I'm also constantly thinking about how I can present my Reading better on my website
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[Jo] i currently use bookwyrm.social, which is kind of built with the community aspect in mind, being an activity pub thing, but I don't really want to make my own actititypub server just to track my books. there's gotta be something similar i can do in a simpler way
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[tantek] aaronpk there are swarm web links for venues. You may be able to do a mass conversion
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[Murray] relevant to some of the discussions happening here recently: https://buttondown.com/indie-and-community-web-compliance-/archive/2-five-things-you-need-if-you-run-a-small-low/
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[Murray] doesn't go into a huge amount of detail on the steps, but does have some useful links and pullquotes about what services count/don't
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[Murray] (this is about the UK OSA, just to be clear)
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gregsarjeant @Jo bookwyrm.social looks interesting, thanks. That's the sort of thing I'm interested in, and maybe it is just a matter of something that supports ActivityPub and/or webmention (I admit I'm using these words without really understanding what they mean - that's one of my reading projects for the weekend). At a high level, something that encourages people to strike up a conversation rather than just
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gregsarjeant absorbing yesterday's average pace or watts or whatever.
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gregsarjeant I'm leaning towards trying to write something. Worst case, I'll learn some new things.
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Loqi Front End Study Hall #019 is starting soon! Join us! https://events.indieweb.org/WjRE1WdPjK1v
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jasonshellen 👋 Hey I'm Jason Shellen. I've spent a good chunk of my career dreaming up and building things that intersect with IndieWeb ideas. I participated in the creation of Atom while working on Blogger (before and after being acquired by Google). I founded the Google Reader project before leaving to start Brizzly (sold to AOL, but bought back in 2018). I've been a product exec at places like Pinterest and Slack. I have a few project
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jasonshellen [edit] 👋 Hey I'm Jason Shellen. I've spent a good chunk of my career dreaming up and building things that intersect with IndieWeb ideas. I participated in the creation of Atom while working on Blogger (before and after being acquired by Google). I founded the Google Reader project before leaving to start Brizzly (sold to AOL, but bought back in 2018). I've been a product exec at places like Pinterest and Slack. I have a few
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Loqi hey jasonshellen: it looks like this conversation is getting pretty technical (ATOM), can you take it to #indieweb-dev?
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capjamesg[d] Welcome to the community, jasonshellen[d] 👋
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capjamesg[d] We have the #microformats channel to talk about all things microformats! Many people here support microformats on their website (including me!).
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capjamesg[d] I love the idea of Brizzly Zero 😄
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capjamesg[d] I have been thinking a lot about building "calmer" web tools that work at a slow pace.
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jasonshellen Thank you capjamesg[d]. I've been thinking about that too. I'm working on some real-time stream stuff but it's hard not to think, "what would help me achieve my goals?" and so things like background agents only bringing you things when the occur instead of instant gratification can be tough. Lotta chron jobs.
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capjamesg[d] I run a feed reader that updates once per day 😄
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jasonshellen Right on.
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[schmarty] welcome, jasonshellen! i was / am a big fan of Google Reader! a friend and I put together a "novel approach to information overload" using Processing and the Google Reader API in 2010 https://www.cibomahto.com/2010/04/a-novel-approach-to-managing-information-overload-in-syndicated-feed-readers/
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[schmarty] (it's like space invaders except the invaders are RSS feed items. when you shoot them, all the words in the article explode out in a particle effect)
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[schmarty] i should re-implement that as an indie reader 😄
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Loqi yea
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[schmarty] gives Loqi a high-five
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Loqi loves the high-five
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[schmarty] heck yeah
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jasonshellen That is amazing. I love it, schmarty.
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jasonshellen I'm working now on an app called Tapedeck that currently is a feed/social catcher of links with group chat. Will share more as it gets closer to alpha.
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[schmarty] sounds exciting! looking forward to checking it out.
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jasonshellen There is an alpha sign-up behind the Getting Started link at https://tapedeck.com
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jasonshellen [edit] There is an alpha sign-up behind the Getting Started link at https://tapedeck.com
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[schmarty] haha, well, you've got my submission :}
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[schmarty] ooh, and i found the video demo for RSS Invaders 😂 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptYMKpYMXzs
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[snarfed] jasonshellen! long time no see, welcome! (this is Ryan Barrett)
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[snarfed] this will obviously a receptive audience for Tapedeck, lots of reader users here, preaching to the choir
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aaronpk fyi your survey question about messaging says "check all that apply" but is a radio button
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aaronpk i am signing up now :D
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jasonshellen 🙃 Thank you aaronpk[d] - will fix.
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jasonshellen 👋 @snarfed
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[tantek] jasonshellen++ welcome! Great to see you here!!
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btrem artlung++ for hosting front end study hall. Which included a certain Eric Meyer! First time that I interacted with him.
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mondodaemon Hey folks, i am testing out a way in which webmentions is working properly in my website or not. could you please help by retweeting/mentioning this post, wanted to test it out: https://shreyasprakash.com/publish-originally-syndicate-elsewhere/
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max1 How do you handle GDPR and webmentions? In General No User on social media is aware of that a profile Image with the link so a social Media account ist published in websites displaying webmentions?
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gRegor Hi mondodaemon, have you tried the tests on https://webmention.rocks? #indieweb-dev might be a better place to follow up for more webmention questions/help.
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[snarfed] max1 we have very few lawyers here, and even fewer GDPR lawyers, but in general when they've looked at webmentions, particularly between personal web sites like we mostly do here, they've generally found that they're exempt
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[snarfed] some details: https://brid.gy/about#gdpr
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max1 Thanks for the link. Another option probably would be to anonymize webmentions before displaying them in a website
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gRegor Some discussion and links to posts on the wiki too https://indieweb.org/GDPR
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