#indieweb 2025-02-05

2025-02-05 UTC
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darylsun Oh yeah, I need to work on my submission for this month
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[Joe_Crawford] capjamesg++ thank you! Added! And darylsun looking forward to it!
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Loqi capjamesg has 81 karma in this channel over the last year (216 in all channels)
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aaronpk Huh, Apple Invites
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aaronpk https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/02/introducing-apple-invites-a-new-app-that-brings-people-together/
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[snarfed] didn't see that one coming
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aaronpk RSVPing works from the web, not just from the app. I'm going to have to see if photo uploads work without the app too
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aaronpk Here's an event if anyone wants to join and see if they can add photos https://www.icloud.com/invites/0b7cJfCaKdcO69R30Jnk9x6XQ
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[KevinMarks] https://mastodon.art/@NiwlCraft/113951943430787975
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[tantek] ^ yup, came through in #indieweb-stream?
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goddesstex why is everyone an app
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aaronpk what is discuss?
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aaronpk ^^
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[tantek] goddesstex, or perhaps you're interested in this blog post about how you and all your friends should/could be "apps" on each others mobiles: https://tantek.com/2014/067/b2/mockups-people-focused-mobile-communication
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Loqi [preview] [Tantek Çelik] Mockups For People Focused Mobile Communication
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gtx hi
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gtx oh i see now
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goddesstex oh hi gtx
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gtx hi goddess!!
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gtx well i ended up here cause im looking for a blog i can use and be free to post what i want but im not good in a lot of things so i guess i will end up using tumblr after trying publii and drupal, and failing
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[snarfed] gtx try https://micro.blog/ !
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[tantek] Microblog++
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Loqi Microblog has 2 karma over the last year
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carrvo tantek++ that mockup looks really cool!
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Loqi tantek has 25 karma in this channel over the last year (146 in all channels)
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Loqi Homebrew Website Club Europe/London is starting soon! Join us! https://events.indieweb.org/EPXLryuDYt89
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[tantek] Thanks carrvo! Maybe it's time to start another push for proper /icon and /contact support on people's home pages
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carrvo It might be useful to create a page that describes suggested features to progressively enhance with (if not already). Like, webmentions might be better to come before that, but when do you add accessibility? And also collecting all the nice features together just to remember.
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[tantek] Depends on people's personal goals for their sites!
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[tantek] Tried a bit of the features to progressively enhance with the /IndieMark page but it did not resonate that much (or if it did, people were quiet about it) and on the contrary there was a bunch of pushback from folks who had other preferences or priorities for their sites
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[tantek] I’m thinking a specific use-case based approach to adding specific features, each of which further enhance that specific use-case
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[tantek] I mean I'll perhaps ask here, who supports having an icon of themselves on their homepage? (I know it's not everyone, because I've tried adding some domains to home screens and gotten lots of default icons)
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[tantek] Also even something that "simple" has a tension / disconnect between how people present themselves (icon) for/as their websites or for example, their contact card on their mobile
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[tantek] Eg most (iPhone users at least) have a photo of their face as their contact card representation, so if you "bump" iPhones with another, it offers to enhance your name, iCloud contact id (phone or email), and that image of you
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[tantek] But there folks here that have something more abstract or cartoony on their website and in contrast to their contact card
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[tantek] Which makes me wonder why?
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[schmarty] there are multiple ways to define an "icon" for a site, too. favicons that show up in browser tabs and bookmarks. mobile app icons when saved to home screen, and of course link unfurlers. these all act differently under the hood, but they also appear in totally different contexts from a contact list or at the top of an iMessage chat!
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[schmarty] for example, my implementation of metacrap for link unfurlers is a bit jank, and i am often embarrassed when a link to one of my posts ends up using my site icon (me making a goofy face) appears as the preview for a blog post 😂
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[schmarty] the context is also hugely different for sharing contact info vs publishing for the whole wide world. i am not my website!
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[tantek] I think the answer to avoiding metacrap previews is avoiding metacrap markup
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Loqi [schmarty], [tantek]: that's a lot of dev jargon! implementation, markup... can you move to #indieweb-dev?
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[tantek] lol
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[schmarty] gotcha! 😂
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gRegor Unfortunately, Facebook (probably others?) will still try to guess a preview image sometimes, so you can still end up with your photo in the link preview. It's been a while but I definitely recall running into that.
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[tantek] The trick to avoiding that is not going too aggro in the resolution of YOUR FACE
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gRegor lol
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gRegor I can't help it, I was born with this resolution 💁‍♂️
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[tantek] I should put that in the how to on /icon
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Loqi I agree
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[tantek] lol
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[snarfed] fun example of a personal contact page in the wild: https://edent.tel/
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gRegor nice!
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capjamesg[d] This is amazing: https://walkkumano.com/koyabound/
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[aciccarello] Wow, that is amazing
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[aciccarello] Added to the https://indieweb.org/travel page
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