#indieweb 2025-02-10

2025-02-10 UTC
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schalkneethling Heya! I cannot believe it took me this long to join the chat here 🙈 Happy to be here and looking forward to learning from the community and contributing where I can. My name is Schalk and I am a passionate front-end engineer (living in South-Africa), sometimes podcast host, mentor, and open web and web accessibility evangelist. 👋 ✌️
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[aciccarello] Welcome Schalk!
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[aciccarello] What's your website?
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[aciccarello] I'm https://www.ciccarello.me/
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Loqi [preview] Anthony Ciccarello
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capjamesg[d] Welcome 👋
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[tantek] WELCOME schalkneethling++
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Loqi schalkneethling has 1 karma in this channel over the last year (2 in all channels)
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[Jo] welcome schalk
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Microformats in Front Matter: Part 2 Location Properties" https://btrem.com/2025/02-mf-front-matter-2
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btrem Question: why do some posts listed in IndieNews (news.indieweb.org/en) have a content excerpt, and others don't? Happy to go to either #dev or #microformats it the answer is technical.
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[aciccarello] If it's an article (i.e. it has a title) just the title is shown
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[aciccarello] If it is a (short) note, the note's contents will be shown.
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[aciccarello] What is post type discovery?
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Loqi Post Type Discovery specifies an algorithm for consuming code to determine the type of a post by its content properties and their values rather than an explicit “post type” property, thus better matched to modern post creation UIs that allow combining text, media, etc in a variety of ways without burdening users with any notion of what kind of post they are creating https://indieweb.org/post-type-discovery
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btrem That seems like a strange distinction. https://tantek.com/2025/012/t1/eight-years-webmention is not a note, at least not the way I think about it. It appears to be a fairly long article.
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btrem Same for https://artlung.com/affirmations-ic/, which has 7 (7!) subtitles.
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btrem I suppose it sounds like I'm complaining. I'm not, just curious how it works.
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[aciccarello] I think Joe's post might have an issue cause the title is inside the content. That probably should be an article.
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[aciccarello] Tantek's post definitely would violate the length constraints of a "tweet" but different platforms have different max lengths.
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btrem I'm not on any silos. I guess I'm talking more from what a non-techy, non-computer person would regard as a note. I just took a second look at Tantek's post. It appears that *all* the content is in the <title> element!
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btrem But when you say "title," I assume you mean p-name. Or maybe not?
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[aciccarello] Yes
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[Joe_Crawford] yeah, I noticed the weird formatting in indienews and I have not run that down. But knowing that the issue is that the title is not in the expected place explains the weird formatting!
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[aciccarello] Yeah, I can see that the name is parsed but I'm guessing that because the name = start of content it gets confused
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[Joe_Crawford] (I'm ~fighting~ in vigorous conversation with git right now but it's on my todo list to get that right.
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Loqi hey btrem [Joe_Crawford], would you mind moving this more technical conversation (Microformats, git) to #indieweb-dev? thanks!
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[Joe_Crawford] 😄 I would not mind. Thanks Loqi.
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[aciccarello] PTD says "If this processed name property value is NOT a prefix of the processed content, Then it is an article post [Else] It is a note post."
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[aciccarello] Ha, I managed to avoid the loqi triggers while clearly being too technical 🙈
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btrem Just what I was thinking! :-p
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[aciccarello] loqi too technical or just right?
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Loqi just right
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btrem Ha ha
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btrem You teed her up for that response!
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btrem I think Loqi is a bit too sensitive. The only time I mentioned Microformats was to reference the channel.
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[tantek] who is Loqi?
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Loqi Loqi is a friendly and useful bot/digital therapist present in the IndieWeb discussion channels https://indieweb.org/User:Loqi.me
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[tantek] lol gonna add some more to the jargon page
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[tantek] capjamesg[d]++ for https://jamesg.blog/2025/02/10/designing-technology
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Loqi capjamesg[d] has 82 karma in this channel over the last year (215 in all channels)
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[tantek] I think it's deserving of IndieNewsing
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[Joe_Crawford] +!
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[Joe_Crawford] +1
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capjamesg[d] Will do!
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Designing technology" https://jamesg.blog/2025/02/10/designing-technology
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