#indieweb 2025-03-21

2025-03-21 UTC
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ainstein Hello
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ainstein Is the discord server down? Trying to join shows that there are no text channels in the server
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pfych I just joined as a new user and I could see everything just fine - are you potentially using an older client? The server seems to have some stuff set up where you need to read the rules first before chatting.
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[KevinMarks] Setting the default on bluesky to insist that I make alt text for image posts has been training me to do it in useful ways - if it's a joke image, explain what you should recognise from it to understand the joke; if it's a screenshot with text explain the context as well as the text itself
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[KevinMarks] POSSE << don't POSSE to X, says Richard MacManus https://cybercultural.com/p/web-values/
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Loqi ok, I added "don't POSSE to X, says Richard MacManus https://cybercultural.com/p/web-values/" to the "See Also" section of /POSSE https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=100537&oldid=98809
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pfych I wish there was a standardized way to add alt text into the actual metadata of images - I've got a massive folder of all the photo's I've taken and my site generator turns it into a gallery. I don't have alt text for any of these images but I feel like I should, but a separate "meta" file feels really messy :/
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capjamesg[d] ainstein The Discord server should be working fine. Let me know if you're still runnign into issues.
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aaronpk exif "description"? Better convo for #indieweb-dev probably
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[Laptop_Philhar] Hello there 👋
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[Jo] welcome!
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rabiesbabies Hello
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rabiesbabies I'm a bit hyped on doing things to my site lately and noticed this, and seemed maybe relevant, so I'm here checking things out 😄
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pasal897 hi
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capjamesg[d] reacted with 👋 to <capjamesg[d]> ainstein The Discord server should be …
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capjamesg[d] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/866577279223595022/1352631647140446288/Screenshot_2025-03-21_at_13.14.48.png?ex=67deb7e3&is=67dd6663&hm=2f23f0a4cc034369c0a9441f8cebd0eca8f4ded07c29cbd8009af795aa711e9d&
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capjamesg[d] I like the idea of a "load image" button for text-first versions of web pages.
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capjamesg[d] Example: https://www.cbc.ca/lite/story/1.7489528
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Kolev I've run into a problem. POSSE takes longer than just using Mastodon.
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jeremycherfas Why is that a problem?
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Kolev jeremycherfas, it's hard to stick with it. I'll just keep posting on Mastodon instead of my own site.
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jeremycherfas Fair enough. You shouldn't do anything you don't want to.
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[artlung]1 There are people who resisted the idea of the <img> tag. https://thehistoryoftheweb.com/the-origin-of-the-img-tag/ and an on-demand load of images is one half-solution.
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capjamesg[d] Wow, what a story.
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[tantek] Hah yeah reasonably accurate
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[tantek] Also provides insight into some of the challenges of working in / with standards bodies
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[Murray] @Kolev there's always PESOS. Depending on your setup, that can even be automated; post on Masto and get it automatically uploaded to your site via webhook, IFTTT/Zapier etc., loads of options 🙂
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[KevinMarks] Mark P's post is more thorough https://web.archive.org/web/20100306055257/http://diveintomark.org/archives/2009/11/02/why-do-we-have-an-img-element
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zachary.kai Posted my entry for this month's IndieWeb Blog Carnival! https://zacharykai.net/notes/icmar25
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zachary.kai [edit] Posted my entry for this month's IndieWeb Blog Carnival! https://zacharykai.net/notes/icmar25
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zachary.kai [edit] Posted my entry for this month's IndieWeb Blog Carnival! https://zacharykai.net/notes/icmar25
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andreasxciv https://freecivx.net - Freeciv, surely a indie web game.
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andreasxciv [edit] https://freecivx.net - Freeciv, surely a indie web game.
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andreasxciv [edit] https://freecivx.net - Freeciv, surely a indie web game.
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btrem The <img> tag was indeed controversial. I recall some of the discussions after the fact. Details belong in #dev.
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btrem Suffice to say that <img> was introduced the way NTSC was in television. One company just shipped it with no input, to the detriment of the users/viewers.
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[Jo] interesting
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[KevinMarks] At least img didn't have a 30000/1001 frame rate
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btrem [KevinMarks]: 'fraid I don't get that one. I assume it has to do with <video>s? I have posted a couple of videos on my site, but I don't really know much about the tech.
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btrem Just noticed an omission on my part. Earlier I should have said ...the way NTSC was in television ++ in the United States ++. AFAIK, other countries did better.
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btrem Nerdy joke in that regard: what does "NTSC" stand for? ...
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btrem "Never The Same Color!" :-D
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[KevinMarks] NTSC defined the frame rate as 30000/1001 ostensibly so it didn't beat with 60Hz mains frequency. This has led to decades of fiddly nonsense keeping things in sync, including dropframe timecode
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[artlung]1 [KevinMarks]++ -- you are very kind to explain your subtle jokes.
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btrem [KevinMarks]++ Oh! You know more about NTSC than I do. What I know I learned from an engineer, but we worked in radio, so I know more about radio than television. Nice joke!
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btrem I was under the impression that NTSC is no longer relevant in the U.S. now that we have high definition tv. Is that right?
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[KevinMarks] The problem is how to convert the old content and have it look good. It can be done well, but it often isn't
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[KevinMarks] If you watch Summer Of Soul, you can see how good it can look, but so often it is done hackily
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btrem Haven't seen Summer of Soul. It's not on Netflix, right? Because I heard a review on the radio, and I'm very interested, but the only streaming sub I have is Netflix.
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capjamesg[d] [Jo]++ for https://dead.garden/blog/posted-from-the-browser-without-a-cms-or-anything-fancy-like-that.html
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capjamesg[d] [edit] [Jo]++ for https://dead.garden/blog/posted-from-the-browser-without-a-cms-or-anything-fancy-like-that.html
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capjamesg[d] This is so inspiring!
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pfych contenteditable is very cool!
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carrvo [Jo]++ that is similar to what I doing! I should look to see if `contenteditable` can simplify mine further.
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[KevinMarks] @btrem I think it's on Disney
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btrem Yeah, I'd think I'd have noticed if it were on Netflix. 'Cause like I said, I heard a review and I think an interview with the filmmaker (a musician whose name escapes me atm), and I remember thinking I'd like to see it. But not so much that I'm willing to fork $$ to Disney!
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[KevinMarks] [Jo] that's a great post. There are 2 classic War and Peace TV series: BBC 1972 and BBC 2016
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[Jo] thanks ! yes i've heard of the newer one! i also wanna check out the soviet one
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