#indieweb 2025-04-18

2025-04-18 UTC
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[tantek] osteophage++ for https://osteophage.neocities.org/essays/twitterlike
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Loqi osteophage has 3 karma in this channel over the last year (4 in all channels)
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Loqi [preview] [Coyote is a blogger and essayist interested in social media and online communities. You can find its contacts, its essays, and a stash of other sundries at Coyote's Link Hub.] Twitterlike is a Bad Shape
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[Jo] osteophage++
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Loqi osteophage has 4 karma in this channel over the last year (5 in all channels)
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formercanaanite [artlung]: I see that FrESH is mostly html and CSS, do you guys discuss frameworks like React?
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[artlung] formercanaanite JavaScript (or TypeScript or any higher level programming languages) tends not to be our topic.
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Loqi hey formercanaanite [artlung], can you move the tech talk (CSS, frameworks, React, JavaScript) to #indieweb-dev to keep this channel more inclusive and inviting?
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[Sophie_Young] this looks interesting 👀 https://ahoy.eu/
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Zegnat [Sophie_Young]: that does look interesting, slightly too short notice for me to make that work though. Maybe consider adding it to events.indieweb.org? Especially if you think you might go!
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "IndieWeb Blog Carnival — “Renewal”" https://reillyspitzfaden.com/posts/2025/04/indieweb-blog-carnival-renewal/
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[tantek] [Sophie_Young]++ yes that does look interesting. Feel free to create an event for it on events.indieweb like Zegnat suggested with summary from the site, date time venue, and tickets link
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Loqi [Sophie_Young] has 2 karma over the last year
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[tantek] Would be very timely to get it into the newsletter
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[Sophie_Young] looking at my schedule, I don't think I'll be able to attend 🙃
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formercanaanite I have to say I'm really delighted to see that the blogs on this side of the internet are so active, it was disheartening to find like 90% of neocities sites to be abandoned.
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[tantek] re: "abandoned" - perhaps a corollary of Sturgeon's law?
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[snarfed] one of my favorites
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[snarfed] although it needs an addendum: "90% of everything is crap... _and that's ok!_"
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "La De Da 20 Years Later" https://bobbyhiltz.com/posts/2025/04/la-de-da/
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[Sophie_Young] ↩️ https://events.indieweb.org/2025/04/ahoy-european-social-web-day-OisX0d1ry45l :)
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Zegnat [Sophie_Young]++ nice! That should get picked up by the newsletter then :D
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Loqi [Sophie_Young] has 3 karma in this channel over the last year (4 in all channels)
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[tantek] !tell bbbhltz I like your blog posts. Are you meaning to syndicating them all to IndieNews or only the Indieweb-topic ones? (e.g. restart and your blog carnaval entry are great!)
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Kupietz Hey there, I need to clownsource a recommendation... my cousin in Sweden is looking for a new VOIP provider now that Skype is going away. Apparently gVoice is US domestic only. She's not tech-savvy, just needs something easy, doesn't want to use Teams. Anyone know offhand of anything?
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Kupietz Forgot to add, she needs an incoming number.
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[tantek] ooof that's a tough one Kupietz and definitely worth answering
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[artlung] Voice calls can be accomplished on a lot of platforms. I mean here in this Slack we could in theory do a hangout and only share voice. Discord was built for voice sharing too. I have a friend who just called me today inside Facebook messenger to do a voice call. Now, the trick with *all* these is that they can't (to my knowledge) bridge to a regular phone number which is what you probably want, but don't sleep on them as a stopgap before a good
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[artlung] one is sorted out.
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[Sophie_Young] I've been hearing a lot about BigBlueButton, I believe it's open source
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[tantek] that sounds vaguely familiar
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[tantek] what is BigBlueButton
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "BigBlueButton" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "BigBlueButton is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] I guess not
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Zegnat NextCloud had a whole talk at foss-north last week on trying to fill the Teams void with open-source. Not sure if they can get voip phone numbers
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Zegnat What is NextCloud?
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Loqi Nextcloud is an open source software project for self-hosted personal web services including a file manager (an indie version of Dropbox), music, calendar (CalDAV), contacts (CardDAV), and more https://indieweb.org/Nextcloud
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h4kor There is also https://jitsi.org/
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Kupietz Thanks, @artlung. Yeah, for you and me there's all kinds of alternatives, but she just wants a number she can give out that will forward calls to her cell, like she could her SkypeIn number, or like a Google Voice number if that was available there. Just thought if there was any clear options this would be the place that someone knew about it. Thanks all.
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[tantek] That is something that we are losing with the loss of SkypeIn
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[tantek] I used to have one of those numbers too
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gRegor Had not thought about that with Skype going away. That sucks. :/
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[Jo] i'm also familiar with BigBlueButton, used to self host that at work before swtiching to MS Teams. i kind of preferred it.
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