#indieweb 2025-05-01

2025-05-01 UTC
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rosipov
msg NickServ REGISTER B52rfXN3rzXUQD ruslan@rosipov.com
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rosipov
Oh how fun
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rosipov
Missed a slash good thing I use generated passwords
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Loqi
Homebrew Website Club - Americas is starting soon! Join us! https://events.indieweb.org/6w0zMY6auxo6
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rosipov
doesnm: I'll use IRCCloud for now, and will set up soju on my NAS if I stick around! Thanks!
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rosipov
so what's the best way to discover sites from the IndieWeb? I'm excited to support local organic free range blogs and I've set up some RSS feeds for fellow San Diego Indiewebbers... How do I discover? Without algorithms force-feeding me that is (unless...?)
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[tantek]
What is discovery?
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Loqi
Discovery is a variety of methods for finding content, websites, communities, or people to follow on the web including search, directories, recommendation engines, tags, or other serendipitous methods; there are also discovery-algorithms for developers https://indieweb.org/Discovery
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rosipov
reading, thanks! And I do look up folks who pop up here! tantek you wouldn't happen to have an RSS feed would you
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rosipov
ok I'm down the webrings rabbithole. I haven't heard of webrings in over a decade, this is awesome. I've been missing out
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[tantek]
who is tantek
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doesnm
rosipov: irccloud best too but it's paid (free version has limitation)
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doesnm
maybe i will buy it but can't due legal reasons
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rosipov
doesnm what legal reasons?
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doesnm
swift in banned in Russia
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rosipov
ah I figured. I left Russia around 2011, still have family there though
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formercanaanite
starting to reevaluate my opinion of homelab people, they are right, I need to homelab
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rosipov|mobile
IWDiscord: setting up a home server for streaming, photo storage, ad blocking, and hosting some local sites has been life-changing
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rosipov|mobile
(I've been wanting to document what I did on my blog, but I don't know how I feel about advertising attack vectors for my home network)
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ndegruchy
I put most of my non-public things on tailscale
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ndegruchy
That way I don't need to worry as much about public flow and attacks
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rosipov|mobile
ndegruchy: I had the same idea with Wireguard tunnel (right?), I just don't understand the fundamentals well enough to feel completely safe
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ndegruchy
rosipov|mobile yeah, it's basically wireguard tunnels
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rosipov|mobile
ndegruchy: this is a weird question, but what do you think I need to understand to feel like my network is safe? I know how to set everything up in practice but I just don't feel as confident in security aspects since I don't know what I don't know
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ndegruchy
I mean, you will never feel it's safe. You know all the flaws and it'll make you nervous. My advice is to do the best you can, turn off everything you don't need to expose. Firewalls and fail2ban along with no-password logins for the machine go a long way
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ndegruchy
Other than that, patch patch patch. Get on security mailing lists or news feeds and just watch for updates
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rosipov|mobile
that makes sense. Are there specific mailing lists you'd recommend or just find one for each piece of tech I use?
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ndegruchy
It's also good to not oversell (to yourself) the value of your data as a target for hackers
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ndegruchy
Depends. I follow each project on github or mailing list, and I am on the debian security mailing list to make sure I get information about anything that comes down the pike
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ndegruchy
I also have watchtower for my docker containers, so it automatically pulls in new container versions (though, you have to clean up after it)
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rosipov|mobile
and thanks for fail2ban, didn't know about it
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ndegruchy
it's not a panacea, but like most security tools, it keeps the low-effort folks from knocking on the door all day
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rosipov|mobile
do you manually expose ports on your firewall even on your server? So far I allow all on home devices and Wireguard port forwarded on my router
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ndegruchy
I tend to manually expose them, though most of my apps just sit on a subdomain and go through 80/443, so a simple caddy server proxies those requests to the right internal port
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ndegruchy
If you're super clever you could setup a traefik proxy and have your containers request ports from it, but I have so few that the extra headache of configuring all of that is too much overhead when I can just copy a couple of templates and restart caddy
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[tantek]
what are people's preferred ways to link to a specific movie or a specific book from their blog posts? and/or do you use hashtags when posting about a specific movie or a specific book?
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perryflynn
I just link themoviedb. And also use the tmdbid like jellyfin does for management. because I can use the API of tmdb to get any info about a movie for free.
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[snarfed]
personally IMDB and Google Books, but there are lots of close-enough-to-canonical services
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[aciccarello]
In theory I'd like to link to the author/publisher's page for books. But those often go down.
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[aciccarello]
http://openlibrary.org is one I'm considering using as a canonical ref
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[aciccarello]
IMDB is probably what I'd use for movies
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gRegor
For books, I'm using OpenLibrary, behind a link I own that redirects by the /ISBN
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gRegor
Movies, I use a mix of wikipedia and justwatch.com
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gRegor
Latter is nice for finding where it's streaming, if anywhere
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[aciccarello]
I like justwatch for looking up streaming services.
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gRegor
what is OMDB?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "OMDB" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "OMDB is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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gRegor
Hm, thought we had that one
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[aciccarello]
Yeah, me too
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[tantek]
oooh thanks! I do like the idea of linking to Wikipedia for movies. My one worry is that it's still too easy for it to be a spoiler
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[tantek]
does OMDB have permalinks for movies?
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[tantek]
IMDB is owned by Amazon so that may be a reason to not link to it as a canonical reference
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[tantek]
Similarly I've found Google Books useful for search, but don't know that they have a persistence policy that I'd be ok with.
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gRegor
I've not used OMDB myself. It does look like it's primarily an API.
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[tantek]
I like the idea of adding (autogenerating?) a justwatch link for folks to more easily find where they can stream a movie that you're linking to
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[tantek]
I need to checkout openlibrary and then change my ISBN redirects to use it instead of ASINs
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gRegor
I've run into some instances of a specific ISBN not being in Open Library, but it's pretty easy to add them. Can sign in with your Internet Archive account.
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gRegor
And updates are pretty instant, I don't think there's a moderation queue (or they just trust me? :D)
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[tantek]
oh yes! Internet Archive is also a good place to link to for a book (if they have it) because then the reader may be able to view or check it out!
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[tantek]
lol I don't have an "Internet Archive account"
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[tantek]
ah I didn't see that Open Library *is* part of Internet Archive
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gRegor
yep :)
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[tantek]
we really should get them to support Web sign-in
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gRegor
I'm surprised! I thought you might have uploaded stuff to IA in the past (not just Wayback saves)
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gRegor
what is open library
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Loqi
Open Library is an Internet Archive project to create a page for every book, and provide cover images and the ability to borrow or read as many as possible https://indieweb.org/Open_Library
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xue
Is there something like free php hosting? I would like to make a simple script on the server side?
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