#indieweb 2025-07-09
2025-07-09 UTC
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veqq Howdy all!
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# veqq How are you? What do you blog about or indie web with/for? I just discovered this corner and the blog carnivals, though I've vaguely liked/been part of the small web for a while
# [snarfed] welcome! I'm https://snarfed.org/
# veqq What are the [ ] for? I see many have those here
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "[ ] for? I see many have those here" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "[ ] for? I see many have those here is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# veqq interesting integration/bot
# veqq [snarfed]: Oh wow, I didn't realize that's a mastadon page. You have the best client/view I've ever seen. Not slaggardy at all!
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# [snarfed] mastodon page? https://snarfed.org/ ? that's my web site, it's wordpress
# [snarfed] it's also federated into the fediverse with https://fed.brid.gy/
# veqq Ah, I see. I saw the likes with links and... Got it! My impression was that federated = mastadon
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# veqq :D
# osteophage [denschub]: Denschub, have you already got these?
# osteophage Also hi Veqq.
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# palol3780 hello world, joining the chat to appreciate sparklines.
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[KevinMarks] sparklines++
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capjamesg https://www.theslowinternet.com/ is a cool website.
# capjamesg [edit] https://www.theslowinternet.com/ is a cool website.
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# jtwoodhouse Check check. Is this thing on? I'm trying this indieweb chat for the first time.
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# jtwoodhouse Hi snarfed! Thanks for saying hello.
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# [social] [KevinMarks] The deletion had me baffled a bit. There are lot of people who capture things to have the not to use them. But, living in your notes and collections helps keep things fresh. Sort of like going back through my 25 years of blog post as I was updating the code for it.
# [KevinMarks] I think it misses the point of the original 'outboard brain' post that Cory wrote - he said it was the act of writing his thoughts in a form that others could read them too that amde the difference as it forced him to make them more coherent
# [KevinMarks] “I used to bookmark this stuff, but I just ended up with a million bookmarks that I never revisited and could never find anything in.
# [KevinMarks] Theoretically, you can annotate your bookmarks, entering free-form reminders to yourself so that you can remember why you bookmarked this page or that one. I don't know about you, but I never actually got around to doing this -- it's one of those get-to-it-later eat-your-vegetables best-practice housekeeping tasks like defragging your hard drive or squeegeeing your windshield that you know you _should_ do but never get around to.
# [KevinMarks] Until I started blogging. Blogging gave my knowledge-grazing direction and reward. Writing a blog entry about a useful and/or interesting subject forces me to extract the salient features of the link into a two- or three-sentence elevator pitch to my readers, whose decision to follow a link is predicated on my ability to convey its interestingness to them. This exercise fixes the subjects in my head the same way that taking notes at a
# [KevinMarks] lecture does, putting them in reliable and easily-accessible mental registers.”
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[tantek] also to be blunt, a pile of notes is not a "second brain" or "knowledge management". it's just, a pile of notes. like a series of blog posts. no need to make them into something they are not, and they're not serving your present self, sure, delete them (or put them in a time capsule for your offspring to have access to a bit more of who you were).
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[artlung] There’s no objective way to look at such archives. If you think of it as a second brain, a digital garden, your life’s work, a useless mess, a benign clip file, the raw materials for your novel: they are. There’s no objective truth in a bunch of digital files. We are human beings and they have meaning for us if we MAKE meaning of them.
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# [tantek] it's relevant because an inflated (by way of an exaggerated metaphor) sense of what something is may actually be contributing to the stress about it. the problem might not be the thing, but rather the hype about the thing. rather than tossing out the thing, try tossing out the hype first.
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[schmarty] Oh wow yeah this topic hits me hard. I collectively call my bookmarks/read-laters/playlists/collections/this-like-is-actually-a-bookmarks across platforms The Memory Hole and it's a huge source of "if only..." anxiety for me
# [schmarty] I'm on vacation this week, though, so I'm letting sleeping memory holes lie 😎 🕳️
# [schmarty] joy++
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# Loqi Homebrew Website Club Europe/London is starting soon! Join us! https://events.indieweb.org/U3fqF4OhhHcS
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# [KevinMarks] new frontiers in interactive examples: This post embeds emulated Macintosh versions to illustrate the history of the Control Panel https://aresluna.org/frame-of-preference/
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