#indieweb 2025-08-06

2025-08-06 UTC
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[KevinMarks] What is OSA?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "OSA" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "OSA is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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capjamesg What is the online safety act?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/Online_Safety_Act
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[KevinMarks] What is Online Safety Act?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/Online_Safety_Act
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capjamesg OSA is /Online_Safety_Act
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Loqi ok
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[KevinMarks] That's a Wikipedia redirect though
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[KevinMarks] I wanted to link to this explanation, but I suppose I need to edit the wiki first https://www.girlonthenet.com/blog/age-verification-whats-the-harm/
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capjamesg That is a well-written article.
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[tantek] [KevinMarks] perhaps add it to the Wikipedia article unless you really think it has indieweb specific relevance?
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[snarfed] for the subset of us who run services here, IFTAS's article is useful: https://about.iftas.org/2025/07/30/navigating-the-uk-online-safety-act/
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aaronpk [edit] We use this https://github.com/qaisjp/go-discord-irc happy to talk more in #indieweb-meta
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Loqi [preview] [qaisjp] go-discord-irc: The Discord and IRC bridge with puppets! An IRC user is created for each Discord user, messages from IRC seamlessly appear on Discord, and Discord mentions are automagically converted to and from IRC.
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[snarfed] new custom backfeed setup for Bluesky: https://brittanyellich.com/bluesky-comments-likes/
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[snarfed] (ie not Bridgy)
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[tantek] neat!
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[tantek] Bluesky << Backfeed implementation: https://brittanyellich.com/bluesky-comments-likes/
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Loqi ok, I added "Backfeed implementation: https://brittanyellich.com/bluesky-comments-likes/" to the "See Also" section of /Bluesky https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=103189&oldid=102642
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Loqi Homebrew Website Club Europe/London is starting soon! Join us! https://events.indieweb.org/ZyRCnuODhynO
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hughrawlinson I intended to join today but then my house had an electrical problem that took my attention :( Maybe next week.
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Mathium05 hello :3
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capjamesg No worries! We have meetings every week!
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mathium05 discord is saying this, do I just do it here or?
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mathium05 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/866577279223595022/1402739844160950282/image.png?ex=689502c8&is=6893b148&hm=968e2f0259995844a0a8ed7f9e081f3df2275dba23ac59bd21d5b6d459e0d8b2&
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doesnm @mathium05 hello!
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mathium05 hi lol
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capjamesg Welcome!
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mathium05 ty :3
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mathium05 What exactly is this?
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capjamesg What is the indieweb?
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Loqi The IndieWeb is a community of independent and personal websites based on the principles of: owning your domain and using it as your primary online identity, publishing on your own site first (optionally elsewhere), and owning your content https://indieweb.org/indieweb
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capjamesg That page is a good place to start ^^
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mathium05 Also I was looking to flesh out one of your articals but I can't figure out how to login
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mathium05 [edit] Also I was looking to flesh out one of your articals but I can't figure out how to create an account
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doesnm what is relmeauth
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Loqi RelMeAuth is an authentication method that uses personal URL for identity that rel-me link to established OAuth provider(s) to perform the actual authentication https://indieweb.org/RelMeAuth
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capjamesg How to sign in to the wiki?
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doesnm capjamesg: seems yes
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capjamesg mathium05[d] This page explains how to get set up: https://indieweb.org/wikifying#How_to_Join_the_IndieWeb_Wiki
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capjamesg [edit] mathium05[d] This page explains how to get set up: https://indieweb.org/wikifying#How_to_Join_the_IndieWeb_Wiki
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mathium05 I can't really modify the HTML of my domain like that too easily
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mathium05 [edit] I can't really modify the HTML of my website under my domain like that too easily
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mathium05 *like that
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mathium05 Cause I use cloudflare pages for hosting, and I don't have a good way to inject anything in
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mathium05 Is there a way to use a TXT DNS record instead?
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Loqi [indienews] New post: https://blog.anew.social/bridging-vs-cross-posting/ (from https://snarfed.org/2025-08-06_55522)
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mathium05 mathium05[d]: as the code behind it is hosted in multiple places
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mathium05 (FOSS project that I host :P)
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capjamesg The IndieWeb wiki is a bit unique from others in that you have to sign in with your domain name.
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mathium05 I have a domain name
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capjamesg At minimum you can add a link to your home page like <a href="youremail@example.com" rel="me"></a>. This will then allow the wiki to see your email and send you an email verification.
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[snarfed] mathium05 interesting question. IndieAuth doesn't support DNS, but I wonder if an HTTP Link header in the response would work? eg for setting rel=indieauth-metadata to point to a login provider like http://indielogin.com
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capjamesg The rel=me says that you own the email, so when you sign in and verify your email you are also verifying that you own the domain. This will log you in with your domain.
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[snarfed] oh also we should take this to #indieweb-dev
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mathium05 I can't really modify the HTML or HTTP headers
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Loqi mathium05: we try to keep jargon (FOSS, headers) out of this channel to make it more inviting to newcomers, can you move this to #indieweb-dev?
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mathium05 Yeah
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mathium05 Sure
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[tantek] the wiki requires you to sign-in with your website which you are assumed to control
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[tantek] not being able to modify the HTML doesn't sound like having control of your website 🤷
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mathium05 I have complete control of it
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mathium05 It's just that multiple people host my website
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mathium05 So if I modify the HTML, it'd change for everyone, and I really don't think the others would want that (though I don't really think they'd care :P)
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mathium05 Getting a blog set up anyhow
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[mattl] What’s your website?
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mathium05 https://fermi.chat
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mathium05 [edit] https://fermi.chat
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mathium05 I htg eat
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[tantek] this "if I modify the HTML, it'd change for everyone, and I really don't think the others would want that" doesn't sound like a personal website, it sounds like a group website
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[tantek] the key here is that a personal website represents you and your identity, different from any products, companies, services etc. that you work on or make. project websites are great! we love indie project websites too! important to recognize their difference from personal websites
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[snarfed] I also don't really understand why there would be multiple instances of this site, with the same HTML, that different people host. if this is the site for the Fermi chat app, it seems like you'd only want/need one instance of it, right?
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[snarfed] ...that's less important though
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mathium05 Yeah, there used to be a point
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mathium05 Where I didn't have an official instance
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mathium05 But now
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mathium05 I don't know why it happens
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mathium05 People keep wanting to do it
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mathium05 There's only one I understand rn, which is one not hosted with cloudflare
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mathium05 which makes sense for those unable to access through cloudflare
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mathium05 It's not like you'd gain anything from self hosting it unless you wanted stricter CORS, as there's a cross-instance account switcher